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I know nothing about ML'ers. Are the Remington 700 ML'ers a good choice for an inline? Bang for your buck which CHEAPER used inline would YOU buy based on your experience?

I have a Thompson Center that I have used for years. Not near as heavy as the Remington, but mine shoots great. The one that I have is a "woods rifle", and I think the same as a Black Diamond, but marketed through Walmart a long time ago. I know nothing about the later models of Thompson center inlines, but the earlier ones were good. This model will hold 150 grains of black powder, but I am not trying to make a long range rifle out of ML, so I do not load that heavy. I use 100 gr. of Pyrodex, and a musket cap, and have never had an ignition problem. miles

Define "cheaper". Remington 700MLs are good IF you change out the ignition to the Badger Ridge/Hunter bolt kit. Same with the Ruger 77ML. If I were looking for a good used inline now, I would search out a T/C Omega. Simple to maintain and operate, they work with all powders without modifications. I've seen nice ones in the under $300 area.

Dang... Cheap wouldn't be having to make a $200 alteration to make it work well. I'll look over the T/C's you guys mentioned. Thx

Two friends and myself shoot the Remington Ultimate Muzzleloader. All of us switched to the Arrowhead breech plug. This system uses a Fed 215 primer and allows us to use Blackhorn 209 powder. All rifles got Timney triggers too.

We got tired of using sabots and moved to the 50 cal 300 gr Thor hammer or lightning bullets which have accounted for a cow and bull elk to date.

Now that Fury has the universal fit 50 cal 320 gr will be trying them soon.

The Impact seems to work well and is reasonable, about $300 for SS or WS, whatever it is. Good trigger on the one I bought for my son, and very light.

Omegas are very popular. Have no idea why they stopped making them.

I have a TC Strike that I decided to sell when I bought my new Knight. No takers, so I brought it home. After giving it a once-over, I’m kinda glad no one bought it. It’s a very good design, with a couple of minor quirks. Pretty sure TC bought the design from the original company so they could kill it.

They dont offer the Impact in SS. Its just a coating like all the rest of the TC muzzleloaders.

WeatherShield, right? No idea what it really is. Still, it was a handy little cannon, and the sights lined right up, unlike the sights on the Strike which were impossible with the stock comb they have. This was for a CO elk hunt, iron sights only.

Well if you want the ultimate muzzle loader:

https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/889521724

Seems like a pretty good deal ... for the seller!

You cannot go wrong with a 50 caliber CVA Optima. Accuracy at 150 yards is typically a 2.5 inch group shooting 295 grain Power Belts. Recoil is negligible.

Sherwood

Used a 700 muzzleloader for years . Great guns . Mine is a tack driver. No need to change out the ignition system. I still use #11 caps .keep it clean , like any muzzleloader and you'll be fine . The bolt tends to get dirty , other than that they're good to go .👍

Chris

+1 they are exceptional for the money

The break action MLs are a lot easier to clean than the bolt action guns. I've got a couple Austin & Halleck bolt action MLs and have had a Remington 700 ML, all three were harder to clean than the Optima and Wolf break action MLs from CVA that I've played with.

I've got an unfired Wolf that I'd sell for $125 plus whatever the actual shipping fees would be. I took it in trade and don't have the original box, box fillers, or tools that came with it, but it would be a cheap way to get started.

Sad to say, I’ve found that to be true. Since our season is only a week, I can live with the Knight Ultra Lite considering its other virtues. For futzing around, the Strike is easy to clean, just unwind the breech collar and pop out the plug with the ramrod. Push everything out the front. Easy access to the primer too. Only paid $250 for mine. Needs a scope with a lot of ER, or extension rings.

I have been using 700 ML for years. Bought one when they first came out. The originals had issues. Had a slam fire ignition system that blows gases into the trigger and into the bolt. Carbon steel firing spring and pin that would stick if you didn't clean meticulously. I have a badger ridge breech plug now and stainless firing assembly. Shoot blackhorn and Barnes expanders. It has always been accurate with FFG, cleanshot, pyrodex. But now it is accurate and.reliable. I have killed a pile of deer with mine.

Look at the Knight website and check out the $200 Vision break action muzzleloader.

I have two of original 700 ML's. My first was 54 cal and it has been my primary ML for years. No isuues, only change was from number 11 to 209 conversion. Never a misfire. The second was a 50 cal with a rusted barrel. It was bought for 50 bucks and rebored to from 50 cal to 54. It shoots very well and is my back up to the to the first gun. my only real issue with the two guns is I do not like to Tupperware stocks they put on the those guns. But I have never tried to change one out for something else.I never really found an realistic option that would not require a ton of cobbling on to get it to work.

Boyds makes stocks for the Remington 700ML

I have a 54 TC and a new model 50 cal. Remington.

I've hunted a lot with the 54 and it works fine. I bought the 50 for an elk hunt that didn't materialize. The elk hunt the shots were expected to be up to 300 yards. I didn't trust the 54 at that range. If I were to buy one for shooting deer at my normal deer shooting distance, the 54 would be my choice due mainly to the price. But also, I shoot round ball and cast in the 54 and I buy more expensive sabot bullets and more expensive "powder" for the 50.

You'd be way ahead of the game with a CVA Accura or Optima for the trigger alone.