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How many of you fellers run open sights on a primary deer rig?

Have a new to me 760, that when I shoulder the rifle the front and rear sight are in perfect alignment.

This is a carbine model and will be used in the thick stuff where I hunt 99% of the time anyway and don't shoot over 40-50 yards.

I had looked into the XS sights for a ghost ring but no receiver mount peep available, looks like the ring mounts in rear sight holes.

I understand low light and not being able to see any smaller limbs in low light are a downfall but other than that I cannot see any disadvantages.

I get by w open sights on a Hawken .54 but rarely hunt w it, not because of the sights, just because I don't get it out.


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Out of stock right now, but you can request a notification:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005997233?pid=563119

Someone else may have it, of course, or you can try ordering directly from Williams.


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Saw these. Wish they weren't special order and took so long to get but beggers can't be choosers.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Out of stock right now, but you can request a notification:

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1005997233?pid=563119

Someone else may have it, of course, or you can try ordering directly from Williams.

10-4. Had forgotten about these.

On the hunt now.


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I traded ammo for a 45/70 this year and shoot a deer with it using irons. Technically, Williams Firesights.

I would have to cut down trees to shoot past 75 yards, so it was fine.

I did mount a scope on it for next year though.

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I went to a scope (2-7) when I was about 20 years old, for use in the thickets of Central Louisiana. I could use the scope for extra minutes of hunting, both morning and evening. My “only” complaint was, I had difficulty hitting hand thrown cans, where it wasn’t an issue with open sights. I simply had trouble seeing the can quick enough through the scope! I still have irons on my rifle......and pray I never have to use them! memtb


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Still up in the air.

Never have had an issue w scopes in the brush its just the way these irons line up so fast and easy.


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BTW, IIRC, none of my current CF stable has taken anything larger than a fox in my hands; though the Fieldcraft DRT’d a doe for my son last season. Been a lot of turnover in Pappyland. The crossbow has been making all the meat for three seasons. Only “deer” rifle with irons only is a Low Wall .44, which has been out twice with no noise made. I suppose the Deerslayer 20ga counts too, but it’s also a virgin.


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I always have an open sight rifle on hand for days with precipitation

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Originally Posted by moosemike
I always have an open sight rifle on hand for days with precipitation


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I think it depends on your eyesight. Mine is okay, but it isn't what it used to be. While shotgun hunting in MD this last fall, with open sights and fairly accurate sabot slugs in a rifled barrel, I passed up a shot on a buck a bit under a 100 yards away poking his head out of some brush that I likely could have successfully taken with any of my scoped rifles. With a decent scope I think I could have spotted and sighted in on his his chest. With the open sights at that distance, I couldn't tell where it was for sure as it blended in with the foliage. YMMV.

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That’s the thing right there. What I can see well enough to shoot at the range may not get it done afield. Had a similar opportunity during the ML season a couple years ago, only a doe thankfully, but with a scout scope. Not enough Xs to make it work, even at 100 yards. Irons for me are for pretty close, or pretty open shots; the same goes for my prisms and red dots. When bucks with rifles are on the menu, the scopes come out. In most cases, having to pass on a baldie isn’t a tragedy; passed several this past season because the shot was iffy.


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A ghost ring and a tritium or other bright front site works well even in low light conditions. I have similar front sites on some pistols and the limiting factor is the muzzle flash not the site visibility which works in almost any light you can see in. I am at the point I don't need to shoot everything I see and the slight limitations of irons sites are a welcome addition to the hunting experience. In certain situations they are actually better.

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I have a new WGRS-7400 sight for the 7600 if you'd be interested in it. It looks like the holes line up the same but you would have to change to 6-48 screws. PM me (again) if you're interested.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/100599084?pid=324750


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DBoston nailed it. If you are going to be haunted for days-weeks over having to pass one up due to distance or visibility, keep at it with a scoped rifle.

Every year I try talking myself into taking my iron sighted side-lock over my 209 scoped MZ, or my Lyman 48 equipped M70 vs the myriad of scoped ones. Opening day I’m out there with the modern stuff because I am still chasing that elusive big one. Someday soon I can see that changing...

The other part of the equation is self-limitation. You have to be disciplined enough to pass up that 120 yd shot partly obscured by brush if that’s above your abilities with irons. Same with using stick bows in eastern hardwoods vs compounds. You have to let that broadside buck go at 33 yds (atleast I do). If your the type who might be tempted to stick one in there, stick with the modern stuff for the time being.


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I've always liked scopes on my rifles, except for my FN FS2000, which is just a room-clearing SHTF bullpup.

A couple of months ago, I gave my boys the option of driving to my friend's farm 4-1/2 hours away in Virginia to hunt deer with their scoped rifles or hunting with open-sighted rifled shotguns on another farm only an hour away in MD. They immediately both said "rifles"--so, that's what we did. Maybe I didn't raise them correctly.

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None of my hunting rifles have irons.


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Carried my 10/22 with the compact prism sight for a few miles today. Every so often I took a peek through it to see how well could aim. Very impressed with it for short range as it’s much sharper and clearer than a red dot for me, like a fine iron sight, but no glasses needed!j


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Irons are the fail safe, fundamental point, that everyone should probably know well....but for hunting, there’s just so much less limitation by using anything other than irons, that irons are just a niche thing.....to me.

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