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you seem cranky tonight flave oh flave. them fuggen iguana's getting to you down there?
My patience for stupid has really fallen off over the past year.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Actually one of the ammos on shelf at a shop i went to 2 weeks ago. 30 bucks a box.
Had 5 boxes.
Now all he has to do is find that shop.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Gunswizard does that for people.
He is a giant in the field
A real spark plug, that guy. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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There are tables on line that can help you. I forget the name of them. Perhaps someone will chime in.
Offhand, I'd suspect that an inch or two high at 100 yards would give you the maximum point blank range. If you can't find this chart, then simply take the scope off of a properly sighted in 243 and use it on your 35 rem, the 243 shoots way flatter so you will be good at those longer ranges and you won't waste ammo !
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I’ve got a 35Rem lever gun, I was forced to put a scope on it (Covid has affected my eyesight). What distance should I zero my scope using Federal 200 gr round nose ammo. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks, Robinhedd Curious were you found a box of Federal .35 Rem ammo, haven't seen a box of Federal .35 rem in years. Also found the Federal .35 ammo more accurate than the Remington factory load in the Marlins I shot.
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you seem cranky tonight flave oh flave. them fuggen iguana's getting to you down there?
My patience for stupid has really fallen off over the past year. then this place must give you an eye twitch
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Pick a distance, then shoot at 25, 50, 75, 100 etc to see how POI and POI relate.
Then kill stuff.
Or are you one of those "it came bore sighted, let's go hunting, I'm sure it's good enough" kinda guys???
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You can sight it in where ever you want to. Just be sure to take in windage and elevation when you take a shot.
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I didnt like that leverlution in mine. Shoots way different and the brass seems to be thin confounding reloading. The button on the magazine spring is made for a round nose, and marlins don't like different OAL. my old eye problem was solved with a foolproof. Sight for 75 and realize what you have
I also found that the non existent throate will not take .357 bullets loaded to the right length. loaded short enough to chamber and you get the marlin jam.
This is a carbine I thunk I always wanted, found one at a bargain and sure enuff it is not a colorado gun. Had Pennsylvania roots, see through mounts, kmart 4x and loose screws
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I zero everything to MPBR per Chuck Hawks
Google Chuck Hawks MPBR.
My 9,3 x 62 Mauser is 4.25" high at 100...
4.5" high at 106 yards
Dead on at 200+/- yards
And 4.5" low at 286 yards.
Some call this "Paper Plate" shooting.
If I hold 12" high at 400... I can ring 2 MOA steel 9 out of 10 times.
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I zero everything to MPBR per Chuck Hawks
Google Chuck Hawks MPBR.
My 9,3 x 62 Mauser is 4.25" high at 100...
4.5" high at 106 yards
Dead on at 200+/- yards
And 4.5" low at 286 yards.
Some call this "Paper Plate" shooting.
If I hold 12" high at 400... I can ring 2 MOA steel 9 out of 10 times.
To each thier own, where I hunt there is no way I want my poi going 4.+ inches above my line of sight.
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I zero everything to MPBR per Chuck Hawks
Google Chuck Hawks MPBR.
My 9,3 x 62 Mauser is 4.25" high at 100...
4.5" high at 106 yards
Dead on at 200+/- yards
And 4.5" low at 286 yards.
Some call this "Paper Plate" shooting.
If I hold 12" high at 400... I can ring 2 MOA steel 9 out of 10 times.
You're one of the lucky ones whose eyesight wasn't affected by Convid.
I belong on eroding granite, among the pines.
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I zero everything to MPBR per Chuck Hawks
Google Chuck Hawks MPBR.
My 9,3 x 62 Mauser is 4.25" high at 100...
4.5" high at 106 yards
Dead on at 200+/- yards
And 4.5" low at 286 yards.
Some call this "Paper Plate" shooting.
If I hold 12" high at 400... I can ring 2 MOA steel 9 out of 10 times.
Tabular trajectory data at Std.ICAO Atmosphere
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Gun / Ammunition : 9.3 x 62
Bullet : .366, 286, Nosler Part. 44750
Bullet weight : 286 grains or 18.53 Grams
Muzzle velocity : 2474 fps
Crosswind speed : 10 Mph
Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1):
C1=0.482@V>0 fps;
Table of Various Zero Ranges - Trajectory Path to LOS in inches
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Range 50 yd. 100 yd. 150 yd. 200 yd. 250 yd. 300 yd. 350 yd. 400 yd. 450 yd. 500 yd.
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50 yd. Zero X +0.4 -0.8 -3.8 -8.7 -15.5 -24.6 -36.3 -50.8 -68.2
100 yd. Zero -0.2 X -1.4 -4.7 -9.8 -16.8 -26.1 -38.0 -52.7 -70.4
150 yd. Zero +0.3 +1.0 X -2.7 -7.4 -13.9 -22.7 -34.2 -48.4 -65.5
200 yd. Zero +1.0 +2.3 +2.1 X -3.9 -9.8 -17.9 -28.7 -42.2 -58.7
250 yd. Zero +1.7 +3.9 +4.4 +3.1 X -5.1 -12.4 -22.4 -35.1 -50.8
300 yd. Zero +2.6 +5.6 +7.0 +6.5 +4.2 X -6.5 -15.6 -27.5 -42.3
350 yd. Zero +3.5 +7.5 +9.7 +10.2 +8.9 +5.6 X -8.2 -19.2 -33.1
400 yd. Zero +4.5 +9.5 +12.8 +14.3 +14.0 +11.7 +7.2 X -10.0 -22.8
450 yd. Zero +5.6 +11.7 +16.1 +18.8 +19.5 +18.3 +14.9 +8.8 X -11.8
500 yd. Zero +6.8 +14.1 +19.7 +23.5 +25.4 +25.4 +23.2 +18.3 +10.6 X
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162 yd. PB Zero +0.4 +1.3 +0.5 -2.1 -6.6 -13.0 -21.7 -32.9 -47.0 -64.0
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Velocity fps. 2385.4 2298.7 2213.8 2130.6 2049.1 1969.4 1891.0 1815.5 1742.5 1671.8
Energy ft.lbs. 3612.6 3354.7 3111.5 2882.2 2665.8 2462.4 2270.4 2092.7 1927.8 1774.5
Deflection in. 0.1 0.8 1.9 3.4 5.3 7.6 10.5 14.1 18.5 23.5
Correction MOA/mph 0.025 0.073 0.118 0.161 0.203 0.242 0.286 0.338 0.393 0.449
Time sec 0.061 0.126 0.192 0.262 0.333 0.407 0.484 0.565 0.651 0.740
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Bullet weight : 200 grains or 12.96 Grams
Muzzle velocity : 2083 fps
Crosswind speed : 10 Mph
Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1):
C1=0.195@V>0 fps;
Table of Various Zero Ranges - Trajectory Path to LOS in inches
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Range 50 yd. 100 yd. 150 yd. 200 yd. 250 yd. 300 yd. 350 yd. 400 yd. 450 yd. 500 yd.
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50 yd. Zero X -0.5 -4.1 -11.2 -23.0 -40.4 -64.4 -96.0 -135.7 -184.4
100 yd. Zero +0.3 X -3.3 -10.2 -21.7 -38.8 -62.6 -93.9 -133.3 -181.7
150 yd. Zero +1.4 +2.2 X -5.8 -16.2 -32.3 -55.0 -85.2 -123.5 -170.9
200 yd. Zero +2.8 +5.1 +4.4 X -9.0 -23.6 -44.8 -73.5 -110.5 -156.3
250 yd. Zero +4.6 +8.7 +9.7 +7.2 X -12.8 -32.2 -59.2 -94.3 -138.4
300 yd. Zero +6.7 +12.9 +16.1 +15.7 +10.7 X -17.3 -42.1 -75.1 -117.1
350 yd. Zero +9.2 +17.9 +23.6 +25.6 +23.0 +14.8 X -22.3 -52.9 -92.3
400 yd. Zero +12.0 +23.5 +31.9 +36.8 +37.0 +31.6 +19.5 X -27.7 -64.4
450 yd. Zero +15.1 +29.6 +41.2 +49.1 +52.4 +50.1 +41.1 +24.6 X -33.6
500 yd. Zero +18.4 +36.3 +51.3 +62.5 +69.2 +70.2 +64.6 +51.5 +30.3 X
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126 yd. PB Zero +0.8 +1.0 -1.7 -8.1 -19.1 -35.7 -59.0 -89.7 -128.7 -176.6
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Velocity fps. 1886.3 1704.0 1535.1 1383.2 1252.4 1146.7 1066.3 1005.4 956.7 915.6
Energy ft.lbs. 1580.0 1289.3 1046.4 849.6 696.5 583.9 504.9 448.9 406.5 372.2
Deflection in. 0.5 2.7 6.4 11.8 19.2 28.6 39.8 52.7 66.9 82.5
Correction MOA/mph 0.098 0.259 0.408 0.562 0.732 0.910 1.086 1.257 1.420 1.576
Time sec 0.075 0.159 0.252 0.355 0.469 0.594 0.730 0.875 1.028 1.189
Looks to me like those ballistics are related to open sights.
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Bullet weight : 200 grains or 12.96 Grams
Muzzle velocity : 2083 fps
Crosswind speed : 10 Mph
Ballistic Coefficient(s) (G1):
C1=0.195@V>0 fps;
Table of Various Zero Ranges - Trajectory Path to LOS in inches
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Range 50 yd. 100 yd. 150 yd. 200 yd. 250 yd. 300 yd. 350 yd. 400 yd. 450 yd. 500 yd.
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50 yd. Zero X -0.5 -4.1 -11.2 -23.0 -40.4 -64.4 -96.0 -135.7 -184.4
100 yd. Zero +0.3 X -3.3 -10.2 -21.7 -38.8 -62.6 -93.9 -133.3 -181.7
150 yd. Zero +1.4 +2.2 X -5.8 -16.2 -32.3 -55.0 -85.2 -123.5 -170.9
200 yd. Zero +2.8 +5.1 +4.4 X -9.0 -23.6 -44.8 -73.5 -110.5 -156.3
250 yd. Zero +4.6 +8.7 +9.7 +7.2 X -12.8 -32.2 -59.2 -94.3 -138.4
300 yd. Zero +6.7 +12.9 +16.1 +15.7 +10.7 X -17.3 -42.1 -75.1 -117.1
350 yd. Zero +9.2 +17.9 +23.6 +25.6 +23.0 +14.8 X -22.3 -52.9 -92.3
400 yd. Zero +12.0 +23.5 +31.9 +36.8 +37.0 +31.6 +19.5 X -27.7 -64.4
450 yd. Zero +15.1 +29.6 +41.2 +49.1 +52.4 +50.1 +41.1 +24.6 X -33.6
500 yd. Zero +18.4 +36.3 +51.3 +62.5 +69.2 +70.2 +64.6 +51.5 +30.3 X
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126 yd. PB Zero +0.8 +1.0 -1.7 -8.1 -19.1 -35.7 -59.0 -89.7 -128.7 -176.6
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Velocity fps. 1886.3 1704.0 1535.1 1383.2 1252.4 1146.7 1066.3 1005.4 956.7 915.6
Energy ft.lbs. 1580.0 1289.3 1046.4 849.6 696.5 583.9 504.9 448.9 406.5 372.2
Deflection in. 0.5 2.7 6.4 11.8 19.2 28.6 39.8 52.7 66.9 82.5
Correction MOA/mph 0.098 0.259 0.408 0.562 0.732 0.910 1.086 1.257 1.420 1.576
Time sec 0.075 0.159 0.252 0.355 0.469 0.594 0.730 0.875 1.028 1.189
Looks to me like those ballistics are related to open sights. That funny
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This doesn’t have to be that complicated
The Texas Method:
Go set up in your “shootin house” put up a target at your corn pile. Whether that be 35, 40 or gosh, even 50 yards.
Set up a target at the corn pile, zero it there.
Take target down, add some fresh corn, hunt the next morning.
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If you know where you will hunt and the most likely distance to your target, go to the range and place a target at that distance. Zero the scope on that target.
Move the target half the distance toward your shooting point, take a shot and record the amount of drop/rise from zero at that distance.
Move the target out that same distance past the original target (zero) point, take a shot and record the amount of drop/rise from zero at that distance..
You now have some shooting practice with your rifle and new scope and you know the ballistic characteristics at three sensible distances as based on your hunt plan.
You are a hunter - use that data - figure it out.
Or, read all of the above posts, consult the online data charts as applicable to your cartridge, and proceed as you would have done before you saw this post.
Hope this helps.
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How in rhe fugg did folks shoot before the interwebs?
Maybe, just maybe, actually go and shoot?
Never consulted any online crap.
Doubt my scope same height, or bbl same length.
Just go to range and shoot diff distances.
Yeah ammonis expensive, esp these days.
Fuggin up a hunt or wasting time is worse.
Just shoot the damn thing
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This doesn’t have to be that complicated
The Texas Method:
Go set up in your “shootin house” put up a target at your corn pile. Whether that be 35, 40 or gosh, even 50 yards.
Set up a target at the corn pile, zero it there.
Take target down, add some fresh corn, hunt the next morning. Piles? I thought they had high speed low drag feeders with timers and light sensors and stuff?!?!??
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Shop only had 3 boxes of the Hornady and about 10 of the green n yellow. ![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/ySG22Cn/IMG-20210123-153315487.jpg) The ol lady said I shoulda bought all the Hornady, and all the Remington LOL. Eh, ill go up next week and buy 2 more of whatever.
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