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Pretty close.. I shot her right below the ear. There was a big herd of cows all bunched up right at 400 yards. They would not break away from each other, so it was a waiting game. Finally one stuck her neck out and I put a 175 grain SMK about 1 inch low of the ear hole which was my aiming point. As you can tell from the pic, it was an instant Bang-Flop and then she started leaking!

Nothing like a big heavy Sako TRG and a Nightforce. Made it pretty easy. laugh


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Judman:

Between this and the SWFA threads, it appears that you're fishing pretty hard.

I know I'm not the "Big" fish you're after, but I'll tickle the bobber a little.

I've ran both the SHV Forceplex and MOAR, and NXS MOAR's. I've also ran 3-9 HD, 6x and 10x SWFAs. I like them all, and they've all been top notch as far as reliability.

I like the glass, size, toughness, and looks of the NF SHV; and while I've never had an issue with the turrets of an SWFA ghost turning, the capped set up of the SHV does eliminate one more thing to check before taking a quick or close jump shot, if that's a consideration for the rigs it's on.

As far as reticles, I do prefer the mil quad to anything NF offers, and I don't find it slow or cumbersome to use; in fact, I find that often I don't bother dialing in the field, but viva la difference. Maybe it's because I used a mil-dot Leupold that couldn't be trusted for dialing for a long time.

I've dialed and hunted a Forceplex SHV a lot and don't/wouldn't feel like I'm missing out that much if I was constrained by horrible circumstances to use that scope for all of my big game hunting. On max X the duplex junction is 2.5 moa, which works as a nice reference for wind holds when dialing.

Seeing as how you like a duplex and SFP, as it seems you already well know, it's tough to beat the NF. We've dialed a bunch on a few of the Forceplex SHV on some heavy recoilers and have yet to experience or hear of any hiccups.

I'll add that I've been running a SWFA 1-6 HD on a 375 h&h, and I've found it to be much more useful than a SFP duplex for both close and long range shots. On 1.5X the doughnut is like a large peep; very quick and intuitive. On 6x you have the great Milquad for longer shots. The turrets can be run capped or exposed, and you get 10 mil per turret rev. I have 1 in my safe to mount on a 300 yd ML. The illumination is very well done.




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Thanks for a good well rounded report starbuck. It’ll be riding on a sporter weight 300 prc. Gonna go shv. Besides haven’t seen a swfa shot with a 12 gauge yet. 😂😂😂


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That SWFA 1-6 is a very pleasant surprise. From 1x to ~2.5x is real nice on the low end and then go to 6x for the longer stuff. For a rifle where 6x is plenty and pointing at moving critters or very quick shots is really the game this would be a great choice. Not a choice for a 300 PRC.

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I do like those 1x6’s SS’s as well. Pretty slick scope.


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hard to love a big giant donut blocking ur FOV through the middle power ranges.

couple that with the major bleed through when you light up the reticle at 6x

turrets are the same mush burgers as the 3-9

no zero stop

not daylight bright

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ND:

We've joked that the 1-6 HD SWFA should be called the 1-2 or 6; as you've pointed out, the middle X's aren't the best. But, it still serves a purpose for a rig that is intended for close up shots, but might also see use on longish shots.

Bleed through - I haven't noticed this being an issue on my examples.

Zero stop - With 10 mil per rev, on the rigs I use and/or intend to use them on, I haven't found the need to go more than 1 rev; as such, I haven't found the lack of a zero stop to be troublesome. But, I can see the need of a guy was going to run it with exposed turrets and spin more than 10 mils regularly.

Daylight bright - With the heavy doughnut and or the Milquad on 6X, I haven't had the need or desire to use the illumination for anything but the margins of the day.

Mushy turrets - I agree with you there; it's not an NF, or even a Classic. I was weaned on Leupolds, so maybe I've just been conditioned to accept mushy turrets. However, they have tracked well, and overall I'll accept the mushy turrets so long as they continually do what they're supposed to.

For now, there's a few rigs in my battery that might get switched to the 1-6 as I like what they have to offer for certain situations. However, I'm never afraid to upgrade or try something that fits a niche better, so I'd like to read about scopes that you've found to be a better option.


I was excited to pick up an NF NX8 1-8, but the reviews seem to be less than stellar.

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Originally Posted by Judman
So perhaps I shoulda asked, which of the 2 had the most precise “clicks”? Fuuck you guys make shiit difficult... god damn... who in this fuucking world wants to count (dots) in a reticle while killin??? Haha 😂😂



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Originally Posted by Starbuck
ND:

We've joked that the 1-6 HD SWFA should be called the 1-2 or 6; as you've pointed out, the middle X's aren't the best. But, it still serves a purpose for a rig that is intended for close up shots, but might also see use on longish shots.

Bleed through - I haven't noticed this being an issue on my examples.

Zero stop - With 10 mil per rev, on the rigs I use and/or intend to use them on, I haven't found the need to go more than 1 rev; as such, I haven't found the lack of a zero stop to be troublesome. But, I can see the need of a guy was going to run it with exposed turrets and spin more than 10 mils regularly.

Daylight bright - With the heavy doughnut and or the Milquad on 6X, I haven't had the need or desire to use the illumination for anything but the margins of the day.

Mushy turrets - I agree with you there; it's not an NF, or even a Classic. I was weaned on Leupolds, so maybe I've just been conditioned to accept mushy turrets. However, they have tracked well, and overall I'll accept the mushy turrets so long as they continually do what they're supposed to.

For now, there's a few rigs in my battery that might get switched to the 1-6 as I like what they have to offer for certain situations. However, I'm never afraid to upgrade or try something that fits a niche better, so I'd like to read about scopes that you've found to be a better option.


I was excited to pick up an NF NX8 1-8, but the reviews seem to be less than stellar.

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better for what?

i won't pull some bs and quote 87,000 rounds down range on multiple samples of every single LPVO ever made

but i've owned over the last decade or so.

swfa 1-4 classic and HD (classic still on the 22lr but the eye box sucks and the mag rings the wrong way) hd is pretty tanky for a 4x and it's pretty long and had the dumb donut, not daylight bright )

swfa 1-6. already covered.

bushnell 1-6.5 and the 1-8.5 (8.5 is a beast and still has wonky reticle and not daylight bright) see below for 1-6.5

vortex razor e 1-6
viper 1-4 (didn't seem very durable not daylight bright ez flip)

nightforce nxs 1-4 (pretty good scope, not stoked on 4x, probably shoulda kept it)
borrowed and mounted my buddies nx8 1-8 for a month this year.

and then a fair bit of borrowing at ranges and on hunts
swaro 1-6 (did not like the reticle for my use, don't trust swaro on durability)

trijicon 1-4 (chevron is not a good reticle for my use)


my aunt worked at eotech so pretty extensive time with the vudu 1-6 ffp and the 1-8 sfp. i like the 1-6 a fair bit.. except the don't of death.

1-8 is sfp.. dead on arrival, dumb reticle.



being completely honest, as of 2020 i have buying fatigue. none of the above are really that great. the nx8 was probably the closest.. i added this part last. phones dying. will update later. basically tho it's a tight eyebox and narrow depth of field.

the razor 1-6 had two major knocks, first i didn't like the bdc reticle at all. i'm sure the mrad reticle would be fine. and it weighs about 5oz too much. the weight for me killed it. and at the time i made a couple hundred on the flip. wasn't sad to see it go. don't trust vortex for durability. thanks formidilosus.

the bushnell smrs 1-6.5 is the closest to what i want for weight, ability to hold zero and track and reticle that works on 1x. still have it. use it daily. killed a lot of critter with it. for what i got in it money wise it's fine.

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Originally Posted by Starbuck
ND:

We've joked that the 1-6 HD SWFA should be called the 1-2 or 6; as you've pointed out, the middle X's aren't the best. But, it still serves a purpose for a rig that is intended for close up shots, but might also see use on longish shots.

Bleed through - I haven't noticed this being an issue on my examples.

Zero stop - With 10 mil per rev, on the rigs I use and/or intend to use them on, I haven't found the need to go more than 1 rev; as such, I haven't found the lack of a zero stop to be troublesome. But, I can see the need of a guy was going to run it with exposed turrets and spin more than 10 mils regularly.

Daylight bright - With the heavy doughnut and or the Milquad on 6X, I haven't had the need or desire to use the illumination for anything but the margins of the day.

Mushy turrets - I agree with you there; it's not an NF, or even a Classic. I was weaned on Leupolds, so maybe I've just been conditioned to accept mushy turrets. However, they have tracked well, and overall I'll accept the mushy turrets so long as they continually do what they're supposed to.

For now, there's a few rigs in my battery that might get switched to the 1-6 as I like what they have to offer for certain situations. However, I'm never afraid to upgrade or try something that fits a niche better, so I'd like to read about scopes that you've found to be a better option.


I was excited to pick up an NF NX8 1-8, but the reviews seem to be less than stellar.

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You may want to give the Trijicon Accupower (or the Credo now) 1-8x28 a try.

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Originally Posted by Mackay_Sagebrush
Dave,


Pretty close.. I shot her right below the ear. There was a big herd of cows all bunched up right at 400 yards. They would not break away from each other, so it was a waiting game. Finally one stuck her neck out and I put a 175 grain SMK about 1 inch low of the ear hole which was my aiming point. As you can tell from the pic, it was an instant Bang-Flop and then she started leaking!

Nothing like a big heavy Sako TRG and a Nightforce. Made it pretty easy. laugh


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Haha oh god damn er that’s funny!! 😂


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ND:

Thanks for taking the time to share your LPVO experiences.

Jordan:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll give it a look.

Judman:

I apologise for taking your thread on a tangent.

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Originally Posted by Starbuck
ND:

Thanks for taking the time to share your LPVO experiences.

Jordan:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll give it a look.

Judman:

I apologise for taking your thread on a tangent.

NP. Make sure you look at the MRAD, red illum model, if looking at the Accupower.

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Originally Posted by Starbuck
ND:

Thanks for taking the time to share your LPVO experiences.

Jordan:

Thanks for the recommendation. I'll give it a look.

Judman:

I apologise for taking your thread on a tangent.


No apologies necessary man, its the www, we all have our opinions and know what works for us..


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