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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail, as that is the best way to kill an economy. The Federal reserve has been buying up our bonds to prop up the dollar and doing so with printed money only backed up by the belief that we will be good for our debt. If interest rates rise 2% the interest on our debt will soon be impossible for us to pay.
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If the dollar fails, so will every other currency in the world. PS--People have been saying this for forever.
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It isn't "supposed". It is inevitable. There is no way around it now, and the monetary policies of every entity who can make them have all been directed toward that end. It has nothing to do with paying off any debt. It's all a con game based on Monopoly money. When all is said and done, it's all about slavery, but by another name.
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If the dollar fails, so will every other currency in the world. PS--People have been saying this for forever. Uh,,, no!
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In 6 months or less we will be up to 30 trillion in the hole. Hole only get deeper faster from that point.
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Well if Biden shuts down the economy we will without doubt not be able to keep up our interest payments. Bet 2021 will be a weak year for tax collection also. Some big states didn't produce anything in 2020.
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When the oil markets shift away from USD rate per barrel to the Euro or what the fugg the bucketheads call their money.
It will be a sign of the end for good...
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When the oil markets shift away from USD rate per barrel to the Euro or what the fugg the bucketheads call their money.
It will be a sign of the end for good... Then both Soros and China win.
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Unless something dramatic happens, within a year, the Demon's policies & actions will cause the dollar to lose value, interest rates will rise, inflation will rise, gas will hit $4+/gal, we will go from exporting oil to importing oil & the market will be be dropping, maybe by 25% or so.
Book it.
By then, if it already hasn't, the schitt will be hitting the fan.
Gold looks good to me.
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When the oil markets shift away from USD rate per barrel to the Euro or what the fugg the bucketheads call their money.
It will be a sign of the end for good... This^^^ when the petro dollar ends and it will soon the dollar will be kinda like monopoly money
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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The M1 will continue to expand until there is signs of inflation.
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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. It's comforting to see you can speak for the "rest of the world". But I'm curious as to how you come to this conclusion? Was it your confidence in Trump that brought you to such a conclusion and you assume the "rest of the world" shares the same confidence as you? Year National debt (in billion U.S. dollars) '20 26,945.39 '19 22,719.4 '18 21,516.06 '17 20,244.9 '16 19,573.45 '15 18,150.62 '14 17,824.07 '13 16,738.18 '12 16,066.24 '11 14,790.34 '10 13,561.62 '09 11,909.83 '08 10,024.72
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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. It's comforting to see you can speak for the "rest of the world". But I'm curious as to how you come to this conclusion? Was it your confidence in Trump that brought you to such a conclusion and you assume the "rest of the world" shares the same confidence as you? Year National debt (in billion U.S. dollars) '20 26,945.39 '19 22,719.4 '18 21,516.06 '17 20,244.9 '16 19,573.45 '15 18,150.62 '14 17,824.07 '13 16,738.18 '12 16,066.24 '11 14,790.34 '10 13,561.62 '09 11,909.83 '08 10,024.72 Pay it back or at least maintain interest payments. Are you blaming Trump for the heavy handed way Pelosi runs the house and the RINO's in the Senate? And you don't think the CCP virus had an impact on revenue? I hate to break it to you but a president is not responsible for what congress demands. Remember when Trump shut down the govt for less than a month over a spending bill? And how both sides howled over it? Looking at it over that year spread it looks like our debt expanded a bit more than a trillion a year. Just wait till they find out how screwed they/we are over collected taxes in April.
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The M1 will continue to expand until there is signs of inflation. This. and a certain amount of inflation is targeted. Presently the USA is still the tallest financial midget in the world. The whole world is awash in debt.
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Are you blaming Trump for the heavy handed way Pelosi runs the house and the RINO's in the Senate? I'm not blaming anyone for anything, I just asked a question. I hate to break it to you but a president is not responsible for what congress demands. Much like every president we've ever had. You have nothing to "break" to me, I'm quite aware of political workings.
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Unless something dramatic happens, within a year, the Demon's policies & actions will cause the dollar to lose value, interest rates will rise, inflation will rise, gas will hit $4+/gal, we will go from exporting oil to importing oil & the market will be be dropping, maybe by 25% or so.
Book it.
By then, if it already hasn't, the schitt will be hitting the fan.
Gold looks good to me.
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I'll be very surprised if we don't see $4.00 a gallon gas this summer.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued.
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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. It's comforting to see you can speak for the "rest of the world". But I'm curious as to how you come to this conclusion? Was it your confidence in Trump that brought you to such a conclusion and you assume the "rest of the world" shares the same confidence as you? Year National debt (in billion U.S. dollars) '20 26,945.39 '19 22,719.4 '18 21,516.06 '17 20,244.9 '16 19,573.45 '15 18,150.62 '14 17,824.07 '13 16,738.18 '12 16,066.24 '11 14,790.34 '10 13,561.62 '09 11,909.83 '08 10,024.72 I think that's Trillions not billions. We round up billions these days.
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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. It's comforting to see you can speak for the "rest of the world". But I'm curious as to how you come to this conclusion? Was it your confidence in Trump that brought you to such a conclusion and you assume the "rest of the world" shares the same confidence as you? Year National debt (in billion U.S. dollars) '20 26,945.39 '19 22,719.4 '18 21,516.06 '17 20,244.9 '16 19,573.45 '15 18,150.62 '14 17,824.07 '13 16,738.18 '12 16,066.24 '11 14,790.34 '10 13,561.62 '09 11,909.83 '08 10,024.72 I think that's Trillions not billions. We round up billions these days. It's both. Look at the figures again. That a comma, not a decimal. 26,945 billion equals 26.945 trillion.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Correct. They also don't want to lose their largest market if the US collapsed.
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They've been trying real hard to dilute the $ for.many years. Except for Divine intervention, it should work out that way sooner than later. Mr T. signed the executive order for how much....$6.? Trillion. Bankers salivated and swooned.
Then the other day I hear about $3 trill!!!
When the next covid scare tactic works (possibly the vax effects "final solution"), the middle class will be offered a $ amount for the use of a "covid pass" requiring centralized block chain controlled by gates and friends. Just.my .02 cents based on his public statements.
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They've been trying real hard to dilute the $ for.many years. Except for Divine intervention, it should work out that way sooner than later. Mr T. signed the executive order for how much....$6.? Trillion. Bankers salivated and swooned.
Then the other day I hear about $3 trill!!!
When the next covid scare tactic works (possibly the vax effects "final solution"), the middle class will be offered a $ amount for the use of a "covid pass" requiring centralized block chain controlled by gates and friends. Just.my .02 cents based on his public statements. Did your parents have any children with a functioning brain?
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They’re going to print money until inflation starts and then they’ll print some more. The only way out of our debt trap is inflation. Time will get really tough for anyone on a fixed income. I figure they’ll shoot for a total of 200% over a couple of years. Unfortunately I seriously doubt they’ll manage the inflation and it will come all at once and crush the middle class and kill many old and poor. There’s no free lunch.
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Undoubtedly. Buddy of mine said he wasn’t worried about building with the high lumber prices were seeing, the inflation coming it would still look like a hell of a bargain in a few years.
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U piker,
Do your own homework.
Those digits on a screen aren't meant for the American people.
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For once in my life I wish I hadn't been responsible.
0 debt, cash available.
I really need to invest some in tangible arrests.
Inflation favors those in debt, historically.
They get to pay off those high value dollars with cheap ones.
Of course cash in hand is worth less.
Look at Greece and Argentina in the recent past.
People required therir bosses to pay them daily.
And spent their whole days wages every day.
Food was going to cost a lot more tomorrow,
So they bought all they could daily.
People think we are too big to fail.
Ugh, no!
It's just that if we go down, we are going to drag everyone
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Undoubtedly. Buddy of mine said he wasn’t worried about building with the high lumber prices were seeing, the inflation coming it would still look like a hell of a bargain in a few years.
Id be surprised if that weren't true of all consumables. Dr. Ron Paul has been pointing that out. www.ronpaullibertyreport.com
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I'll be very surprised if we don't see $4.00 a gallon gas this summer.
A certainty. Some of us wanted Trump to prevail, but we prepared for this exact scenario by investing in tens and hundreds of thousands of shares in small cap oil producers that drill on private land. These same small caps that were $15 and $20 a share a few years ago were selling for .24 a share and less in March. It was interesting negotiating the perils of reverse splits and bankruptcies, but here we are. It's going to be an interesting year to be $ure.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Correct. They also don't want to lose their largest market if the US collapsed. You are in some delusional acid induced fantasy. The CCP wants to own us not maintain us as their largest market. George Soros has made a habit of destroying currencies to include Russia and the UK. Do you live with your head UYA? Why don't you do some searches on Soros and China. Use their own words. They can both get what they want if we are unable to maintain our military. A coward POS like Biden might just hand the country over.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Correct. They also don't want to lose their largest market if the US collapsed. You are in some delusional acid induced fantasy. The CCP wants to own us not maintain us as their largest market. George Soros has made a habit of destroying currencies to include Russia and the UK. Do you live with your head UYA? Why don't you do some searches on Soros and China. Use their own words. They can both get what they want if we are unable to maintain our military. A coward POS like Biden might just hand the country over. OK, obviously you've got the world political scene all figured out. Never mind that you don't have the first clue about how things work.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Correct. They also don't want to lose their largest market if the US collapsed. You are in some delusional acid induced fantasy. The CCP wants to own us not maintain us as their largest market. George Soros has made a habit of destroying currencies to include Russia and the UK. Do you live with your head UYA? Why don't you do some searches on Soros and China. Use their own words. They can both get what they want if we are unable to maintain our military. A coward POS like Biden might just hand the country over. OK, obviously you've got the world political scene all figured out. Never mind that you don't have the first clue about how things work. Funny post there dupe, like I said PYHO and do some research.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Screw China they owe US now.
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Screw China they owe US now. You can bet not according to Beijing Biden. After all the leftards have been calling it Trump's virus for months.
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Funny post there dupe, like I said PYHO and do some research.
I've done plenty of research, you need to stay off the conspiracy theory websites. Have you ever set foot in China? I've been there many times. First, the Chinese hate us but they need our money. About a year ago I almost got run over by a guy driving a Bentley while crossing a street in Shanghai, that's how rich we've made them. If the dollar collapses their lifestyle reverts to ox carts instead of Bentleys. They hold over a trillion dollars of U.S. debt so if the dollar collapses that's worthless. If the U.S. economy goes tits up then they've got nobody to sell their cheap crap to so they go back to being a nation of peasants. It's a symbiotic relationship and they're the parasite, they can't kill the host and continue to advance. Thank your buddy Bill Clinton for getting us into bed with those devils. Our new president is a wholly owned pawn of them. Soros is Soros, he's an equal opportunity scumbag. If he can make money off of collapsing the dollar he will.
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Funny post there dupe, like I said PYHO and do some research.
I've done plenty of research, you need to stay off the conspiracy theory websites. Have you ever set foot in China? I've been there many times. First, the Chinese hate us but they need our money. About a year ago I almost got run over by a guy driving a Bentley while crossing a street in Shanghai, that's how rich we've made them. If the dollar collapses their lifestyle reverts to ox carts instead of Bentleys. They hold over a trillion dollars of U.S. debt so if the dollar collapses that's worthless. If the U.S. economy goes tits up then they've got nobody to sell their cheap crap to so they go back to being a nation of peasants. It's a symbiotic relationship and they're the parasite, they can't kill the host and continue to advance. Thank your buddy Bill Clinton for getting us into bed with those devils. Our new president is a wholly owned pawn of them. Soros is Soros, he's an equal opportunity scumbag. If he can make money off of collapsing the dollar he will. I said do some real research, if you can't see it you are a fool. Are you even 30 yet? The Chinese won't need our money if they own us. WTF is wrong with you? Try to do some real thinking. If we can't pay our debt or try to monetize our debt and at the same time cannot maintain our military what do you think will happen? Why is it the media shutting down free speech means nothing to you? About the part China exported the virus all over the world. About your retard hero getting more than a billion dollars from a bank owned and controlled by the CCP, interesting the media was trying to hide that along with Joe being part of it. Don't you understand we have all been sold out? This is all about the Chinese wanting to own us. Stand back and think about what is happening, leftist scum allowed to run wild, burning, looting and attacking people yet non leftist scum Whites are kept from free speech? Leftard politicians allowed to do anything they want without fear of repercussion. We are in it right now. PYHO.
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I said do some real research, if you can't see it you are a fool. Are you even 30 yet?
I'm 52, and you're a moron. I'm out, there's no use trying to discuss anything with someone like you.
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History will provide the answers you seek........
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Correct. They also don't want to lose their largest market if the US collapsed. China owns <10% of USA debt.
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Buy any hard commodity that you can physically own in store and it will rise with the hyperinflation that is bound to come.
Put 10,000 lb of lead behind your woodpile.
If you are a fabricator stockpile all of the steel or aluminum that you can afford to buy. It will rise in value and you will not have to pay super inflated prices later.
The same is true with Lumber and building materials if you have a large enclosed building to keep them secure from the weather.
Interest rates for homes and borrowed money are super low now but will rise. Once interest rates rise for the common people they will rise globally and that will be the trigger that the American dollar and the American debt untenable.
Of course I could be wrong and all of this and gasoline will be fifty cents a gallon next week.
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Buy any hard commodity that you can physically own in store and it will rise with the hyperinflation that is bound to come.
Put 10,000 lb of lead behind your woodpile.
If you are a fabricator stockpile all of the steel or aluminum that you can afford to buy. It will rise in value and you will not have to pay super inflated prices later.
The same is true with Lumber and building materials if you have a large enclosed building to keep them secure from the weather.
Interest rates for homes and borrowed money are super low now but will rise. Once interest rates rise for the common people they will rise globally and that will be the trigger that the American dollar and the American debt untenable.
Of course I could be wrong and all of this and gasoline will be fifty cents a gallon next week. So it would be a good idea right now to borrow all you can and buy as much of handy commodities possible and sell or trade them when it all hits the fan? Trade them for a dead or very weak currency? Interesting article which will become current when we can no longer service our debt. Mexico seems to be the standout. https://internationalman.com/articles/what-will-happen-to-you-when-the-dollar-collapses/
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We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail China doesn’t want to see the dollar fail, they hold massive amounts of our debt and don’t want it devalued. Correct. They also don't want to lose their largest market if the US collapsed. You are in some delusional acid induced fantasy. The CCP wants to own us not maintain us as their largest market. George Soros has made a habit of destroying currencies to include Russia and the UK. Do you live with your head UYA? Why don't you do some searches on Soros and China. Use their own words. They can both get what they want if we are unable to maintain our military. A coward POS like Biden might just hand the country over. OK, obviously you've got the world political scene all figured out. Never mind that you don't have the first clue about how things work. China would like nothing less than the US being forced into using the Yuan.
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When I started farming, an acre of good Iowa farm land ran 300-400$ an acre, now-----$8000, to $13000
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if this happens folks will wish they had invested in precious metals , like copper and lead.
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The amateur economists have been saying this since its inception.
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The amateur economists have been saying this since its inception. We have never had such an incompetent president before. Crashing the economy would put us under the government thumb and stuck waiting on handouts, exactly where the leftist scum want us. The Chinese have for years wanted the Yuan to be the top currency and if they call in our debt due to not making the interest payment on it we are screwed. The dollar goes down the drain. You actually think Biden wouldn't sell or give federal lands to China? Pretty sure the tax monies collected this year will be a pittance compared to last year and these trillion dollar bailouts are surely going to dilute the dollar due to inflation. But then remember this thread around July.
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When I started farming, an acre of good Iowa farm land ran 300-400$ an acre, now-----$8000, to $13000 Boy that is a fact, same here in Texas.
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All I have to say is I hope you’ve got either precious metals or crypto in your portfolio.
Me personally, I’ve been investing in heavy metals and copper, 100-180 gr at a time.
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I said do some real research, if you can't see it you are a fool. Are you even 30 yet? The Chinese won't need our money if they own us. WTF is wrong with you? Try to do some real thinking. If we can't pay our debt or try to monetize our debt and at the same time cannot maintain our military what do you think will happen? Why is it the media shutting down free speech means nothing to you? About the part China exported the virus all over the world. About your retard hero getting more than a billion dollars from a bank owned and controlled by the CCP, interesting the media was trying to hide that along with Joe being part of it. Don't you understand we have all been sold out? This is all about the Chinese wanting to own us. Stand back and think about what is happening, leftist scum allowed to run wild, burning, looting and attacking people yet non leftist scum Whites are kept from free speech? Leftard politicians allowed to do anything they want without fear of repercussion. We are in it right now. PYHO.
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Our country needs to invest in God. The get ready to fight. At least we'll be on the right side. Which God?
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Our country needs to invest in God. The get ready to fight. At least we'll be on the right side. Which God? There is but one. Hope you are successful finding him before your candle goes out.
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This imbecil in the oval office is trying his hardest to f uck this country up beyond any hope of repair. Hope all the morons who voted for him are happy now !
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Unless something dramatic happens, within a year, the Demon's policies & actions will cause the dollar to lose value, interest rates will rise, inflation will rise, gas will hit $4+/gal, we will go from exporting oil to importing oil & the market will be be dropping, maybe by 25% or so.
Book it.
By then, if it already hasn't, the schitt will be hitting the fan.
Gold looks good to me.
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It might take two year, but yea, this is the base case scenario.
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It's not just the Joke in the WH, it all the Demons. Pelosi & Schumer are calling all the shots. Along with the puppeteers pulling Joe & the Ho's strings.
There's a reckoning coming, but I have no idea how this is going to go or end up, but the ride to get there is going to be rough.
God is not in charge of the US economy, either.
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Our country needs to invest in God. The get ready to fight. At least we'll be on the right side. Which God? There is but one. Hope you are successful finding him before your candle goes out. That is what every religion says.
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The dollar is already loosing value. The local ram dealership just offered me $43,000 cash for my 2019 Ram. I brought it a year and a half ago for $39000 new.
My house I build 3 years ago for $350,000 just appraised for over twice that. Another rental house I bought in 2013 for $123,000 and I just got an offer of $280,000 and it's not even for sale. All this while the real economy sucks for a lot of people. But all our local government workers working at the INL and the contractors have lots of money to spend and are driving up prices on cars, homes, boats, RVs, motorcycles and guns and ammo.
Lots of dollars out there they are just in a select fews hands. Meanwhile just when we were starting to produce things of value the commie cold and the commie left have come back to shut it all down. Our GDP will follow our energy production. The fed has pumped trillions into everything already and they can't lower rates anymore. The next few years will be interesting.
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They’re going to print money until inflation starts and then they’ll print some more. The only way out of our debt trap is inflation. Time will get really tough for anyone on a fixed income. I figure they’ll shoot for a total of 200% over a couple of years. Unfortunately I seriously doubt they’ll manage the inflation and it will come all at once and crush the middle class and kill many old and poor. There’s no free lunch. Not meaning to be rude Dave but I am pretty sure the traditional official reset button is world war.
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IT ISN'T JUST THE RTARDS IN THE WHITE HORSE... ITIS THE RETARDS THAT PUT THEM THERE !! THEY BELEIVE ALL THIS SHTUF SHOULD HAPPEN.
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The dollar has been failing since 1913.
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All fiats fail..... the average life span is 40-50 yrs.
Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971..... seems we are on borrowed time
Of course the normies & commies think it will be different this time....
Yet things are shaping up for history to repeat....
But have you seen the Dow-Jones.... lmao
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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The amateur economists have been saying this since its inception. And they are usually trying to sell gold.
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The amateur economists have been saying this since its inception. And they are usually trying to sell gold. Either sell it or drive up the price on what they have buried in the back yard.
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All fiats fail..... the average life span is 40-50 yrs.
Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971..... seems we are on borrowed time
Of course the normies & commies think it will be different this time....
Yet things are shaping up for history to repeat....
But have you seen the Dow-Jones.... lmao All of the G-20 nations are dealing with the same. We’re still the cleanest dirty shirt in the closet and will be for a long while. Inflation is still sorta hard to see except for supply disruptions and since food and fuel was conveniently removed from the calculation.
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If anyone can make it happen, the current Democrat Party is up to the task.
Progressives are the most open minded, tolerant, and inclusive people on the planet, as long as you agree with everything they say, and do exactly as you're told.
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If anyone can make it happen, the current Democrat Party is up to the task. Truth. The monetary wild card.
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IT ISN'T JUST THE RTARDS IN THE WHITE HORSE... ITIS THE RETARDS THAT PUT THEM THERE !! THEY BELEIVE ALL THIS SHTUF SHOULD HAPPEN. That is absolutely correct. I will no longer conduct business with people, I believed to be the enemy. Not everyone wears a communist armband, but those that do or are known to me to have aided in this coup... will get no aid, comfort or benefit from me. It really is that simple for me. Of course your mileage may vary and you may choose to buy and sell with known traitors of this great nation. You still have that right for now. However, in the future you will pick their cotton for free.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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The dollar has been failing since 1913. Of course it has, but now it has jet fuel behind it's collapse.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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The simplest of all possible realities is that people that desire things that they have not earned will become owned by these things and the people that provided the advantage of these free/stolen "gifts".
It is EXACTLY what a pusher does with heroin...
The stupid are being lauded with wine and song prior to being shanghaied.
Either you understand that now... or you will later.
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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The greenback dollar is the best of a , "bad lot".
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Meanwhile,,,,Life goes on.
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I think Dave Ramsey should be Secretary of the Treasury.
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I think Dave Ramsey should be Secretary of the Treasury. Head of the FED.
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All fiats fail..... the average life span is 40-50 yrs.
Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971..... seems we are on borrowed time
Of course the normies & commies think it will be different this time....
Yet things are shaping up for history to repeat....
But have you seen the Dow-Jones.... lmao I’m a poor man but I’m in it with 50%+ gains over the last 4years. Can’t complain. Any tips on stuff?
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All fiats fail..... the average life span is 40-50 yrs.
Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971..... seems we are on borrowed time
Of course the normies & commies think it will be different this time....
Yet things are shaping up for history to repeat....
But have you seen the Dow-Jones.... lmao I’m a poor man but I’m in it with 50%+ gains over the last 4years. Can’t complain. Any tips on stuff? Brother Fester, the consensus seems to be commodities.... real goods Buy stuff you need and is durable. Canning supplies Ammo & components (may be too late for that) Land etc.... Cash flowing real estate Pay off any debt Pay off your mortgage As others have said the USD is the cleanest dirty shirt in the hamper, maybe cash ? if you are talking IRA and are limited to what you can do, inflation and collapse is a danger to cash though, Silver and to a lesser extent gold, lead, platinum/palladium Think wealth preservation, wait for opportunities in the future , put speculating on hold for now.
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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All fiats fail..... the average life span is 40-50 yrs.
Nixon took us off the gold standard in 1971..... seems we are on borrowed time
Of course the normies & commies think it will be different this time....
Yet things are shaping up for history to repeat....
But have you seen the Dow-Jones.... lmao I’m a poor man but I’m in it with 50%+ gains over the last 4years. Can’t complain. Any tips on stuff? Brother Fester, the consensus seems to be commodities.... real goods Buy stuff you need and is durable. Canning supplies Ammo & components (may be too late for that) Land etc.... Cash flowing real estate Pay off any debt Pay off your mortgage As others have said the USD is the cleanest dirty shirt in the hamper, maybe cash ? if you are talking IRA and are limited to what you can do, inflation and collapse is a danger to cash though, Silver and to a lesser extent gold, lead, platinum/palladium Think wealth preservation, wait for opportunities in the future , put speculating on hold for now. Sound wisdom. And know your time horizon, tempering your investments to that.
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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail, as that is the best way to kill an economy. The Federal reserve has been buying up our bonds to prop up the dollar and doing so with printed money only backed up by the belief that we will be good for our debt. If interest rates rise 2% the interest on our debt will soon be impossible for us to pay. Crazy. What is really with George Soros wanting the dollar to fall, this is the same thing he did in 1992 to the British Pound. He shorted the currency and it fell drastically. I hope he doesn't do that to the Dollar, it would be cathastrophe.
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With Trump as president the rest of the world at least had some confidence we would pay back our debt, Biden not so much. We know Soros and China want to see the dollar fail, as that is the best way to kill an economy. The Federal reserve has been buying up our bonds to prop up the dollar and doing so with printed money only backed up by the belief that we will be good for our debt. If interest rates rise 2% the interest on our debt will soon be impossible for us to pay. Crazy. What is really with George Soros wanting the dollar to fall, this is the same thing he did in 1992 to the British Pound. He shorted the currency and it fell drastically. I hope he doesn't do that to the Dollar, it would be cathastrophe. Soros lost it all back trying to break the Hong Kong dollar which is pegged to the US$.
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Missed the boat on flipping houses around here. Many of the opportunities I outlined earlier it is already too late... Rental property... too late Ammo/ reloading supplies... too late Silver.... too late, the supply is drying up and the premiums are through the roof Hell, canning supplies are hard to find The time to start on these things was a few years ago. . It's never too late to pay debt though...... 
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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BTC, Dogecoin, RIOT, Tesla- some stocks are in a great position. I do note that they are offering an ETF of fractional farm land. That might be the ticket. Even the commies got to eat.
I had a bad experience of trying to send the traditional kuspuk of my Fatherinlaw down to the Funeral Home in Anchorage and Fedex wouldn't accept cash. I ended up having to buy a $20 camping stove to break a $50 bill. Physical cash is almost nonexistent and that is up here in Alaska where it is almost a cash based economy. It has me wondering if the actual amount of physical cash is extremely limited and that in real terms there is a depression that is going on but the government is trying to juice it through with cash injections to the proles so that they don't riot. Count me to be setting up an "Adventure" team!
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BTC, Dogecoin, RIOT, Tesla- some stocks are in a great position. I do note that they are offering an ETF of fractional farm land. That might be the ticket. Even the commies got to eat.
I had a bad experience of trying to send the traditional kuspuk of my Fatherinlaw down to the Funeral Home in Anchorage and Fedex wouldn't accept cash. I ended up having to buy a $20 camping stove to break a $50 bill. Physical cash is almost nonexistent and that is up here in Alaska where it is almost a cash based economy. It has me wondering if the actual amount of physical cash is extremely limited and that in real terms there is a depression that is going on but the government is trying to juice it through with cash injections to the proles so that they don't riot. Count me to be setting up an "Adventure" team!
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So.....that $7,000 in cash sitting in my gun safe.....I should prolly turn that into something else pronto?
edit: should add...this is the petty cash fund...not the life savings. That would make a difference!
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What’s cash worth if shtf?
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What’s cash worth if shtf? I bet more than a stock certificate.
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So.....that $7,000 in cash sitting in my gun safe.....I should prolly turn that into something else pronto?
edit: should add...this is the petty cash fund...not the life savings. That would make a difference! Convert to silver tomorrow when the store opens ! I think that $7,000 worth of silver will be at least worth $200,000 by the end of the year.
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Convert to silver tomorrow when the store opens! I think that $7,000 worth of silver will be at least worth $200,000 by the end of the year.
I don't believe that, but I hope the hell you're right. I got a sheit ton of it.
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