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I know that we’re currently NOT a nation of law and our Constitution is irrelevant to our enemies, it’s nothing more than an outdated and inconvenient obstacle to their ultimate goal of total control. It’s become all too clear that the communists own our politicians and recently we’ve witnessed a political bias in our judiciary eliminating any checks on unchecked power that was the Constitutional responsibility of SCOTUS. With the disgusting behavior of corrupt judges any further discussion of law, specifically Constitutional law, is hypothetical. My question assumes what a once great nation would do, NOT what is likely to happen as a result of power, greed and corruption.....

Is it legally possible or Constitutionally allowed to hold an impeachment trial against a citizen, a person that is no longer in office? I understand the political motivation for the communists because it’s just another way for them to subvert the will of the people. If a person was so unqualified and undesirable then it should be the choice of the electorate to decide if they’re fit to represent us, not a small minute number of political scum making the decision for 80+ million voters.

It doesn’t seem legal to impeach someone that isn’t in office?


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I don't think there's any specific Constitutional prohibition against a senate trial of a non-sitting president....however, one would REALLY have to be stretching things to say that it was Constitutionally authorized.

Not that it matters.

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Thanks Stophel. It doesn’t matter because our masters will do as they please. I hope President Trump mounts a vociferous defense with endless evidence.


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I hope he just gets out publically what disgusting pedophiles his accusers are. The rest should take care of itself.

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I listened to a lot of satellite radio on Saturday. Fox and the Patriot channel. All the commentators said impeachment is to be used to remove a politician from office, not against a private citizen. Jonathan Turley said that what crazy Nancy is doing is unconstitutional.

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So is election fraud...

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Originally Posted by AB2506
I listened to a lot of satellite radio on Saturday. Fox and the Patriot channel. All the commentators said impeachment is to be used to remove a politician from office, not against a private citizen. Jonathan Turley said that what crazy Nancy is doing is unconstitutional.


That’s exactly my understanding as well.



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So is election fraud...


No kidding. It’s sickening what they’re doing.


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Impeachment is used to remove one from office, and Barr’s them from holding a future position of honor in the government.
Dershowitz was also saying it’s not possible to remove someone from an office they do not hold. If we went down this path, we could retroactively impeach any past president at any time..makes no sense, dog and pony show.
It cannot be simple hatred, the democrats are scared to death of Trump. What’s the old saying, it’s what you know about yourself that makes you truly afraid.

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Short answer this that it's a question that has never been answered. only happened once when one of Grant's cabinet members resigned before the Senate part of his trial started, but the Senate didnt convict so no court ever decided if it was constitutional

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No, a private citizen cannot be impeached. It is a political process, not a criminal one. "Impeach" means to call into question, i.e. impeaching ones character. Then the Senate holds a 'trial' to determine if the accusations are justified. Think of it as a recall election initiated by Congress rather than the citizens. And no, a conviction does not automatically bar one from future office.

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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I know that we’re currently NOT a nation of law and our Constitution is irrelevant to our enemies, it’s nothing more than an outdated and inconvenient obstacle to their ultimate goal of total control. It’s become all too clear that the communists own our politicians and recently we’ve witnessed a political bias in our judiciary eliminating any checks on unchecked power that was the Constitutional responsibility of SCOTUS. With the disgusting behavior of corrupt judges any further discussion of law, specifically Constitutional law, is hypothetical. My question assumes what a once great nation would do, NOT what is likely to happen as a result of power, greed and corruption.....

Is it legally possible or Constitutionally allowed to hold an impeachment trial against a citizen, a person that is no longer in office? I understand the political motivation for the communists because it’s just another way for them to subvert the will of the people. If a person was so unqualified and undesirable then it should be the choice of the electorate to decide if they’re fit to represent us, not a small minute number of political scum making the decision for 80+ million voters.

It doesn’t seem legal to impeach someone that isn’t in office?
.................There is NO legal ground nor any Constitutional grounds whatsoever for this impeachment. It is no more than a feel good revenge party for the socialist, marxist demCRAPs, who think that by doing so will make Trump ineligible to run for POTUS in 2024.......There was nothing in his speech on Jan 6th that incited anyone to breach the capital. ON TAPE. Trump lawyers will have a field day ripping the dems to shreds in any senate trial, which by the way, John Roberts to my knowledge said that he would not preside over.

The demCRAP party could care less about the law or the Constitution especially when it blocks their anti-American agenda.


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"Crimes" occurred while in office, so YES they can impeach, but to what end? They cannpt remove him from office or "undo" what's been done, Supreme Court won['t allow it - even with the flippers - AND Trump sues the US Gov't after he's acquitted for BILLIONS. LOL That's be so funny, all the tax payer's dollars going to Mr. Trump and he privately funds the wall and jobs,,,,,


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I think it's fairly clear it shouldn't be happening.

The legality will be decided by SCOTUS if a conviction happens.


Can't imagine a conviction, but...

As for SCOTUS?

Over the last year or so, who knows?

The world is truly upside down/inside out.


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I'm no Constitutional scholar, but I don't believe it to be Constitutional. Virtually every democrat disagrees, because they want to do it...

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Originally Posted by Stophel
I don't think there's any specific Constitutional prohibition against a senate trial of a non-sitting president....however, one would REALLY have to be stretching things to say that it was Constitutionally authorized.

Not that it matters.



It was "stretching" things the first time as well.


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It certainly tells us how much the left depsides, and fears Donald Trump.


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Biggest hissy fit ever, Mitt Romney leading the way...

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Originally Posted by benchman
I'm no Constitutional scholar........


Neither is anyone else here. I understand that there are two "penalties" that can be levied in an impeachment trial. One is removal from office, the other is being banned from holding office in the future. The latter only requires a simple majority.



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The motivation in this seems to be to disgrace Trump and hurt him and his businesses financially and most importantly to assure that no political outsider ever tries to expose the "swamp" again. Trump's election surprised and scared the crap out of them. He had to be defeated this time by all means necessary. Something like the Trump 2016 election can never be allowed again.


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