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I read a news report from Norway. A group of doctors reported that some patients died soon after getting the vaccine. However, the fatalities were elderly, terminally ill patients. Their advice, don’t give the vaccine to elderly, terminally ill patients.
Well duh!
I’m not sure why they were wasting vaccine on elderly, terminally ill patients. Seems it was inevitable that they were dying.
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Probably because they are the reason everyone "must" wear masks, or havent you heard that one?
They are also the hamsters and mice that a short trial didnt account for.
A certain amount of them will croak and the std. response has already been seen here.
You cant visit grandma, but some "medical professional" needs to shoot her up...
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They just approved over 65 vacs here. Several places on the list as having it, but they won't give it to over 65?
They are still hoarding it for the Essential employees. (Medical)
Only 1 place that will, and it's not on the list.
I'm getting tired of the Essential Employee thing. These dipshits don't have any idea.
Hail the Nurses! Let's see them do anything if all the support people quit. Lab and imaging people are just as exposed. And doing nurses work when things get tight.
Let the c-stores, close. They are just low wage nobody's. See how long things run without any gasolene.
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two more vaccines are coming onto the market - Johnson & Johnson, which I believe is just one shot, not two, and the Astra Zeneca.
I'm hoping that by June anyone that wants a shot can get one.
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Im hoping by June everyone who doesnt want isnt forced to, but 2021 will be worse than 2020 when it comes to Kristallnact and its public measures.
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two more vaccines are coming onto the market - Johnson & Johnson, which I believe is just one shot, not two, and the Astra Zeneca.
I'm hoping that by June anyone that wants a shot can get one. It is my understanding that both these are viral vector vaccines. Which means they deliver DNA into your nucleus. They use a carrier virus to do that. The DNA then causes your cells to produce mRNA which in turn produces antigens. Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA vaccines which use an LNP as the delivery vehicle to get the mRNA into the cells. These skip the DNA part and just induce your cells to produce antigens. Do your research folks. I don't know, but I don't want foreign DNA in the nucleus of my cells. Which cells are targeted by the vector virus? How long does the DNA stay in the nucleus? All questions I don't know.
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I read a news report from Norway. A group of doctors reported that some patients died soon after getting the vaccine. However, the fatalities were elderly, terminally ill patients. Their advice, don’t give the vaccine to elderly, terminally ill patients.
Well duh!
I’m not sure why they were wasting vaccine on elderly, terminally ill patients. Seems it was inevitable that they were dying. Living is a form of terminal illness. I believe many people who are ill would like to live longer.
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Guys VAERS is the Vaccines Adverse Effects Reactions System if I remember correctly. Someone will criticize me if I'm wrong of course. This is the official collection data base for those hospitals, clinics, and nursing homes that want to admit that they screwed up and killed someone or messed a patient up with their "safe and effective" injections.
Thanks! I did not know about VAERS.
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There was a disclaimer I had to sign and acknowledge when getting a flu shot.
Is this different? Yes, the shots are different. I don't read the paper.
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You know, I hear that alcohol is a poison and that it kills lots of people every year. Maybe I should stop drinking - - - -Nah! Do you get your liver enzymes checked?
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two more vaccines are coming onto the market - Johnson & Johnson, which I believe is just one shot, not two, and the Astra Zeneca.
I'm hoping that by June anyone that wants a shot can get one. It is my understanding that both these are viral vector vaccines. Which means they deliver DNA into your nucleus. They use a carrier virus to do that. The DNA then causes your cells to produce mRNA which in turn produces antigens. Moderna and Pfizer are both mRNA vaccines which use an LNP as the delivery vehicle to get the mRNA into the cells. These skip the DNA part and just induce your cells to produce antigens. Do your research folks. I don't know, but I don't want foreign DNA in the nucleus of my cells. Which cells are targeted by the vector virus? How long does the DNA stay in the nucleus? All questions I don't know. Does not every cold, flu, and other viral pathogens inject RNA or DNA directly into the nucleus of your cells?
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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I read a news report from Norway. A group of doctors reported that some patients died soon after getting the vaccine. However, the fatalities were elderly, terminally ill patients. Their advice, don’t give the vaccine to elderly, terminally ill patients.
Well duh!
I’m not sure why they were wasting vaccine on elderly, terminally ill patients. Seems it was inevitable that they were dying. Wasting it on elderly? I'll bet there are a lot of elderly that would disagree. They are the ones most likely to die from Covid, or haven't you heard?
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Does not every cold, flu, and other viral pathogens inject RNA or DNA directly into the nucleus of your cells?
RNA, yes.
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Does not every cold, flu, and other viral pathogens inject RNA or DNA directly into the nucleus of your cells?
RNA, yes. It is my understanding that some virus are RNA, while some others are DNA.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Sugar water is not lethal. This is fake news.
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Guys VAERS is the Vaccines Adverse Effects Reactions System if I remember correctly. Someone will criticize me if I'm wrong of course. This is the official collection data base for those hospitals, clinics, and nursing homes that want to admit that they screwed up and killed someone or messed a patient up with their "safe and effective" injections.
Thanks! I did not know about VAERS. A lot of the medical jargon is published in the media and most don't know what it means because the media simply regurgitates the medical and gt press releases with minor rewarding. They spit out as many stories as possible within their short deadlines. Radio and TV will often just read verbatim what is sent to their news wires.
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Wife and I got our Pfizer shot on Saturday and we aren't dead yet. 20 minutes in and out total with an over supply locally with walk ins welcome. No adverse reaction what so ever, in fact no reaction at all even at the shot site. Never signed anything for this or the flu shot when we got that.
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Sugar water is not lethal. This is fake news. It's the corn that'll get ya.
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Wife and I got our Pfizer shot on Saturday and we aren't dead yet. 20 minutes in and out total with an over supply locally with walk ins welcome. No adverse reaction what so ever, in fact no reaction at all even at the shot site. Never signed anything for this or the flu shot when we got that. The liability immunity is via a special deal with the US Government, not with individual patients.
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I read a news report from Norway. A group of doctors reported that some patients died soon after getting the vaccine. However, the fatalities were elderly, terminally ill patients. Their advice, don’t give the vaccine to elderly, terminally ill patients.
Well duh!
I’m not sure why they were wasting vaccine on elderly, terminally ill patients. Seems it was inevitable that they were dying. Wasting it on elderly? I'll bet there are a lot of elderly that would disagree. They are the ones most likely to die from Covid, or haven't you heard? He said elderly TERMINALLY ILL.
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