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I just had a 22kw home generator installed. It runs on natural gas. What material is best to use to build a cage? I understand about grounding it and no paint, and I live where rust is constant, it has to be light enough a 72yo can remove it for maintenances. Do they really work? Worth the trouble? The more I read, the more confused I get, help.

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Generator Faraday DIY

Kinda a poor example for a big generator but it gives the basics...Google it and there's tons of examples...


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Why bother. your natural gas suppler will go down with the pulse


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I need a faraday for my phone

And I predicted last week there would be an uptick in Faraday threads. 👍👏🏻

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Well,,,,Copper would be best

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Any reason a well grounded galvanized tin shed wouldn't work?
Good contact between roof and walls and walls cabled to a ground rod.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
I need a faraday for my phone

And I predicted last week there would be an uptick in Faraday threads. 👍👏🏻


The week before I tested several mylar pouches.
The double layer worked a little better than one.
Neither worked very well.

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Originally Posted by Traveler52
Why bother. your natural gas suppler will go down with the pulse



Depends on the source of your natural gas. Some wells free flow and others can be run on drip gas in pony motors.


From what I have read. Faradays are easy to build or buy. A example is an ash bucket or metal garbage can with a lid. It doesn't need to be heavy metals. The idea is the energy flows around the protected item.

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Originally Posted by slumlord
I need a faraday for my phone

And I predicted last week there would be an uptick in Faraday threads. 👍👏🏻


Put your phone in the microwave,just don't turn it on 😀😀..They say it works as a Faraday cage..


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Originally Posted by slumlord
I need a faraday for my phone

And I predicted last week there would be an uptick in Faraday threads. 👍👏🏻

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Anyone ever see Night of the Comet?

These two teenagers were screwing in a Sears metal shed when the radiation from the comet hit everyone else.

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I have a virtual faraday cage around the generator at my house. So far it has worked 100%.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
I have a virtual faraday cage around the generator at my house. So far it has worked 100%.

No virtual intruders have been able to penetrate the perimeter of your generator?


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Logcutter is right, a microwave oven is a faraday cage protecting energy from escaping. So a used defunct microwave would protect hand held radios from the outside as an example.

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Holy chit

I need to go drag those three radar ranges out of Curtis Mathes hollow



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Protected items inside the cage should be suspended from contact with the cage itself according to articles I have read on the topic. FWIW.

Interesting read is Ted Koppel's book "Lights Out". One particular item in the book is the attack on a major substation in Kali. Our infrastructure is vulnerable and has been a topic of national concern. From what I can gather, not much has been done to protect our system. Maybe the military has done something but it is not public info if they have.

An EMP attack is a real possibility and not pure bunk.

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There's a scientist you could ask and I think he may be on CF occasionally. His name is Dr. Emmett Brown.


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[quote=slumlord]Holy chit
I need to go drag those three radar ranges out of Curtis Mathes hollow[quote]

If it doesn't say Amana, it's not a Radarange. Wonder how many packs of Camel straights she smokes? LOL



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For your phone just get some pop tarts,us the wrappers and you are set.

At least you get to eat something. wink

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Originally Posted by plainsman456
For your phone just get some pop tarts,us the wrappers and you are set.

At least you get to eat something. wink

Just tried mylar.
Even the double layer was penetrated.
Maybe it needs to be insulated from contact with the foil?
I'll try that next.
I was told that it needed to be grounded.
I can see someone trying that in a restaurant in a mis wired socket. Yeeeow! 😄

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