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What is it with Florida and FBI agent’s getting kilt. Two again, serving warrants.

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ya i was wondering the same thing. if i got out of fbi school and they gave me orders to florida, i'd be like "SCHIIIT".


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Floriduh is plumb full of surprises.


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Then you have olflave that moved there.,just to hunt iguanas and play golf.

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Bad deal on those FBI agents. Sounds like the guy they were after saw them stacking up on his Ring and got something ready for them. I've been told it was an AR but can't confirm that right now.

Their SRT was serving a different warrant at a spot that was deemed higher risk. Broward SO wasn't involved but I bet in hindsight they wish that they were. Their entry guys are very, very, very good.

These type of warrants are served all the time but they always carry risk. I've helped with three in the past two months. Two of the three were for kiddie porn. They usually go smooth but when they don't, they don't. I much prefer to have a team handle all entries. Most field agents, detectives and beat cops simply do not have the time required to get good at it and they will often miss things that dedicated SWAT does not. Like Ring cameras...


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Problems arose when millions of South Americans and damn yankees move here


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Yeah.

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I guess it would have made too much sense (and the same goes for Koresh and Weaver) to wait until the guy goes out in town and just pick them up out in the open...


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
I guess it would have made too much sense (and the same goes for Koresh and Weaver) to wait until the guy goes out in town and just pick them up out in the open...



That's what they did with Malachi York...just waited for him to go to the grocery store. You wanna talk about a sicko.

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Originally Posted by jorgeI
I guess it would have made too much sense (and the same goes for Koresh and Weaver) to wait until the guy goes out in town and just pick them up out in the open...



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For those opining about using different tactics, the arrest warrant is usually issued along with a search warrant. The evidence gathered by the search warrant can often make or break the case.

Arresting people outside their home allows time for the destruction of evidence by friends and family. Also there may be no reduction of risk simply by grabbing the primary target. Other people in the house can carry just as much as risk to the officers.

And it should be noted that you can get smoked approaching a guy on a sidewalk just as easily as you can going into his house.

Hitting a house always carries risk but it is a "one and done" and is usually a better option when viewed from a big picture perspective.


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Problems arose when millions of South Americans and damn yankees move here


When exactly did that happen?


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I read that and the evidence in this case was all on the internet, that is how they got him in the first place. Same for Koresh... We had a guy here on base picked up for the same thing and NCIS WAITED until he got here to the office then nabbed him.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI
I read that and the evidence in this case was all on the internet, that is how they got him in the first place. Same for Koresh... We had a guy here on base picked up for the same thing and NCIS WAITED until he got here to the office then nabbed him.


You have no clue WTF you're talking about and this case has zero parallels to the Branch Davidians.

The tracking of internet activity in cases like this provide probable cause for the warrants. You're still a LONG way from satisfying the AUSA as far as achieving a conviction for the most heinous of crimes.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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2 MORE?

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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by jorgeI
I read that and the evidence in this case was all on the internet, that is how they got him in the first place. Same for Koresh... We had a guy here on base picked up for the same thing and NCIS WAITED until he got here to the office then nabbed him.


You have no clue WTF you're talking about and this case has zero parallels to the Branch Davidians.

The tracking of internet activity in cases like this provide probable cause for the warrants. You're still a LONG way from satisfying the AUSA as far as achieving a conviction for the most heinous of crimes.



Just because I don't always drink from the "Flave Orifice at Delphi" doesn't mean I'm clueless. The gent I mentioned was arrested HERE, THEN they served a warrant at his house. Of course there is a parallel as there is with many arrest scenarios. In fact, during the post mortem on the Koresh fiasco, there was a lot of criticism leveled at the agents for NOT having picked Koresh up out in town when they had multiple opportunities.


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Originally Posted by jorgeI

Just because I don't always drink from the "Flave Orifice at Delphi" doesn't mean I'm clueless. The gent I mentioned was arrested HERE, THEN they served a warrant at his house. Of course there is a parallel as there is with many arrest scenarios. In fact, during the post mortem on the Koresh fiasco, there was a lot of criticism leveled at the agents for NOT having picked Koresh up out in town when they had multiple opportunities.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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It's "aviator" if you please. Don't know how this weighs in but one of the many comments I've seen;

As a 37 year LE veteran who served numerous search and arrest warrants, including high risk warrants, standard protocol is to stand or crouch to the side of a door when knocking and announcing a warrant. Or, wait for the suspect to exit (an apartment in this case) if the suspect is believed to be armed and dangerous.
I hate to say it, but 5 Agents bunched at the front door of an apartment was tragic tactical execution, IF that is what happened (IF all the shots were fired through the closed apartment door).


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Anything coming out about this being tied to the Biden bitches laptop kiddie porn ?


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Originally Posted by jimy
Anything coming out about this being tied to the Biden bitches laptop kiddie porn ?



You kidding me, it’s probably an enemy of the state. They will protect the Buy’ems at all cost. Think KGB.

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