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Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15740112 02/03/21
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 712 2 264magnum Campfire Regular
264magnum Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 712	I have a question for you Legend experts! What’s the weight savings between an edge shell/standard fill and a standard stock? Is there any real advantage over just the standard fiberglass stock? I am looking to build a 300 Win Mag but not really a lightweight and was considering the edge shell/standard fill. Thanks for any input.

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Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15740131 02/03/21
Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 584 D DBoston Campfire Regular
DBoston Campfire Regular D Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 584	I don't have an Echols but it seems the difference between standard and edge fill weights are less than they used to be with both getting heavier. When the edge fill first came out they didn't recommend if for 300 magnums and over. They later changed that to 338 and then 375.

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15740278 02/03/21
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,578 U utah708 Campfire Outfitter
utah708 Campfire Outfitter U Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,578	I would go standard fill. I agree with DBoston that the weight savings is not as dramatic as it used to be. I think you are spending $100 for about 4 oz., and may end up with a mis-balanced gun, depending on the barrel contour and dimensions. Barrel fluting might be a better option.

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15740355 02/03/21
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,374 N.E. Mn./ Mt H handwerk Campfire Tracker
handwerk Campfire Tracker H Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,374 N.E. Mn./ Mt	The legend on my M70 300 H&H is from about 8 years ago and has edge fill. With the 1" pad it came in at 25 oz. the last couple MCM edge stocks I got, they struggled to keep them under 30 oz. and that was the hunter's edge, so I agree that especially with a 300 mag. I'm not sure it is with the extra dough for edge fill now days.

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15740356 02/03/21
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,159 AL Woodhits Campfire Regular
Woodhits Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,159 AL	Here are some additional photos of completed Shrikes:

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Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15741151 02/03/21
Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828 A AKwolverine Campfire Ranger
AKwolverine Campfire Ranger A Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 17,828	Have the weights on the standard fills been staying consistent or have they been creeping up as well? I don’t think I have ever ordered a standard fill so I have no baseline for comparison.

Re: Echols Stocks AKwolverine #15741950 02/03/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA B beretzs OP Campfire Ranger
OP beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by AKwolverine Have the weights on the standard fills been staying consistent or have they been creeping up as well? I don’t think I have ever ordered a standard fill so I have no baseline for comparison. No darned clue. Semper Fi

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15742381 02/03/21
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,318 Tropical Alaska P pabucktail Campfire Tracker
pabucktail Campfire Tracker P Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,318 Tropical Alaska	His website is pretty lame for information. How much are these things? Can you buy them already inlet and painted or not?

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15742556 02/03/21
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,097 Starman Campfire Outfitter
Starman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,097	You got to cut you own bolt-handle slot and they come raw ..unless things have changed - -Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.

Re: Echols Stocks Starman #15742865 02/04/21
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,437 Ct L lone wolf Campfire Regular
lone wolf Campfire Regular L Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,437 Ct	Originally Posted by Starman You got to cut you own bolt-handle slot and they come raw ..unless things have changed - When I talked to D'arcy about the stock, he said he didn't like the way McMillan made there bolt cut over sized and preferred to cut them himself. I do believe you can order it with full inlet if you like. The big thing with getting these stocks now is McMillan is making him order 10 at a time. He is running a list, when gets to 10 he will place order.

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Re: Echols Stocks pabucktail #15743944 02/04/21
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,159 AL Woodhits Campfire Regular
Woodhits Campfire Regular Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,159 AL	Originally Posted by pabucktail His website is pretty lame for information. How much are these things? Can you buy them already inlet and painted or not? He's a one man shop so updating his website is a low priority. Call him and he'll be happy to help you out. You can definitely buy them inletted to your barreled action and I think that paint, pad, studs are available (with McMillan doing that work in-house). I may have that wrong or it might no longer be correct due to the changes in McM's ownership.

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15744074 02/04/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA B beretzs OP Campfire Ranger
OP beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA	I looked it up and the last EDGE shell and fill I got was 600. Semper Fi

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15744088 02/04/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,079 Adirondack Mountains N nyrifleman Campfire Outfitter
nyrifleman Campfire Outfitter N Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 8,079 Adirondack Mountains	Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by nyrifleman Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by nyrifleman Scott, what did you order? A Shrike for a Defiant Deviant. Whatcha building? Welllllllllll, I believe I’m going to do a 27 Nosler. I got the Deviant with CRF and a 3 POS safety. So it’s my first departure from a Model 70. The Defiance is quite a lot lighter to start with and being a Defiance I should have to pay for so much smithing time to make them square and lighter. Plus they give me the ability to load out to 3.8” without any major tricks. I have quite a lot of time to think about what I’m going to do though. I have a 1-8 .308 Krieger, a 1-10 .358 Krieger and a 270 1-7.5 Krieger. I could change my mind before everything shows up too but if I had them all today it’d be the 27 Nosler. A long range 27? Stick will not be happy! “Factio democratica delenda est"

Re: Echols Stocks lone wolf #15744586 02/04/21
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,097 Starman Campfire Outfitter
Starman Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,097	Originally Posted by lone wolf When I talked to D'arcy about the stock, he said he didn't like the way McMillan made there bolt cut over sized and preferred to cut them himself. ... D'Arcy can be a bit suspect on how McM inlet the stock as well, hence they ship to him so he can inspect before out to customer. Seen some Mon. morning/Fri. afternoon inlet jobs , so fully understand the D'Arcy approach . -Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15744587 02/04/21
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 963 J Joezone Campfire Regular
Joezone Campfire Regular J Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 963	Are his Legend stocks best suited for M70 magnum actions/barrels or are they also well suited for say an M70 06 with a standard barrel contour? A wild question would it work with a CZ550 9.3x62? ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15744650 02/04/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA B beretzs OP Campfire Ranger
OP beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA	They work beautiful on Sporters in my opinion. 270/30-06, 300 Mag, 264, 338. I think they’re “big” for a Featherweight sized gun. 338 Win 375 Improved No idea if they’d work with a 550. I’d be fine with one on a 70 Standard though. It was always sorta my plan to find a beat up 30-06 or 270 and make a Whelen and put it in a Legend. Last edited by beretzs; 02/04/21. Semper Fi

Re: Echols Stocks nyrifleman #15744773 02/04/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA B beretzs OP Campfire Ranger
OP beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by nyrifleman Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by nyrifleman Originally Posted by beretzs Originally Posted by nyrifleman Scott, what did you order? A Shrike for a Defiant Deviant. Whatcha building? Welllllllllll, I believe I’m going to do a 27 Nosler. I got the Deviant with CRF and a 3 POS safety. So it’s my first departure from a Model 70. The Defiance is quite a lot lighter to start with and being a Defiance I should have to pay for so much smithing time to make them square and lighter. Plus they give me the ability to load out to 3.8” without any major tricks. I have quite a lot of time to think about what I’m going to do though. I have a 1-8 .308 Krieger, a 1-10 .358 Krieger and a 270 1-7.5 Krieger. I could change my mind before everything shows up too but if I had them all today it’d be the 27 Nosler. A long range 27? Stick will not be happy! I know, I know! I’ve already been asked why not a 28 Nosler and load my bullets backwards to get similar BC, but I’ll struggle with it. 270’s have been working pretty well for me, along with 7mms but a fast 270 is something I’ve always wanted. If I get a wild hair I’ll run the pile of 150 BBCs I have at 3400 just so make old Bob smile some. Semper Fi

Re: Echols Stocks beretzs #15744775 02/04/21
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 963 J Joezone Campfire Regular
Joezone Campfire Regular J Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 963	Thanks. Got me thinking. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Echols Stocks Joezone #15744836 02/04/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA B beretzs OP Campfire Ranger
OP beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by Joezone Thanks. Got me thinking. I’m sure a good stock dude could make it work with a 550 with enough time and materials. They really are quite awesome on magnum chambering that have a little thump. They soak up recoil like nothing else I’ve used. Semper Fi

Re: Echols Stocks Woodhits #15744846 02/04/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA B beretzs OP Campfire Ranger
OP beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,296 Northeast USA	Originally Posted by Woodhits Here are some additional photos of completed Shrikes: Those are real nice buddy! Great looking killing rifles. Semper Fi

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