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Anyone shoot these out of a 223?

If so, how’s accuracy?

Any other comments on them?


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Ive shot thousands of them...most out of a .223 Accuracy is excellent, splatter factor on colony varmints is great, frangible so ricochets are minimal, and can be made into a fur friendly load easily for game the size of coyotes...going fast, it rarely exits.


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Thanks
I have a chance to buy 1000, very cheap.
Going after them, now.


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I have shot tens of thousands of them in 222,223,223AI, 222 Mag, 22 BR, 22 Dasher and 22-250. I concur with everything Ingwe said above.

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I have a couple 223's that they are the most accurate bullet for the Rifle, I also agree with Ingwe. don't think I can go along with 6MMWASP on the 22-250 though, mine blows em up

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Found 1000 for $111.
They’ll be loaded for PDs over Benchmark in Win 223 cases.


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Originally Posted by boatanchor
I have a couple 223's that they are the most accurate bullet for the Rifle, I also agree with Ingwe. don't think I can go along with 6MMWASP on the 22-250 though, mine blows em up


I don't push them very hard in the Dasher or 22-250's, 1 -14 twist custom barrels, Lilja and Hart. I haven't had any trouble keeping them together.

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Originally Posted by dale06
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I have a chance to buy 1000, very cheap.
Going after them, now.


they are good enough, that the only way I purchase them, before the current situation, has been in the thousand round package..

normally for a $100 for a thousand....give or take a few bucks..

and its one of the most accurate of 22 caliber varmint bullets...


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Only 1 out of 5 hit the target at 100 yards from my 1:7 twist 223. Others came apart. Switched to 50gr Hornady V-MAX and all was well.

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Originally Posted by TwoCup
Only 1 out of 5 hit the target at 100 yards from my 1:7 twist 223. Others came apart. Switched to 50gr Hornady V-MAX and all was well.


Same thing with the now unavailable Rem PLHPs, whether 50 gr or 55 gr. No problem driving them to > 4000 fps. And they pulp critters without exiting. But the combination of a gas port plus fast twist is too much, evidently.

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Originally Posted by TwoCup
Only 1 out of 5 hit the target at 100 yards from my 1:7 twist 223. Others came apart. Switched to 50gr Hornady V-MAX and all was well.


I wondered about that in a tight twist. I get one once in a long while that turns to grey mist out of a 1 in 12


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Originally Posted by TwoCup
Only 1 out of 5 hit the target at 100 yards from my 1:7 twist 223. Others came apart. Switched to 50gr Hornady V-MAX and all was well.


with a one in 7 twist, they are only spinning at twice the RPMs they are designed to take....

Speer does make a 55 gr TNT/ HP, that is designed for the 22.250 and the Swift....

Those might do better holding up in a fast twist 223..... they are available in the 1000 pack...

The 52 grain HP ( locally called the bucket mouth 22 ), can be driven harder than the 50 TNT....

They are pretty explosive on sage rats and prairie dogs...


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Speer does make a 55 gr TNT/ HP, that is designed for the 22.250 and the Swift....

Those might do better holding up in a fast twist 223..... they are available in the 1000 pack...




They WERE available a few months ago..........don't see any available right now.....

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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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Speer does make a 55 gr TNT/ HP, that is designed for the 22.250 and the Swift....

Those might do better holding up in a fast twist 223..... they are available in the 1000 pack...




They WERE available a few months ago..........don't see any available right now.....

Kind of designed for the 22-250 & Swift. Still can't push em to max velocity that these 2 cartridges will run em.

Edited: They used to have a velocity cap on those 55s, just looked and couldn't find any information on that. Maybe they beefed em up a fuzz. I was thinking they had a cap of about 3400 when I was shooting them.

I did shoot the 55s in a 9 twist 223 several years ago, very good mist factor for what a 223 can run em.

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Growing up my dad and I hunted groundhogs almost every weekend during the summer and he used this bullet exclusively. He loved his Rem 788 222 and this bullet accounted for hundreds to thousands of ghogs over the years loaded over H322. It was not only accurate but did one hell of a job on them.

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Shot a ton of these out of a Ruger No.1B in 22 Hornet in my misspent youth. With what I would now consider a quite stiff load of H4227 from some data I got out of an off brand gun magazine at the time. The load hovered about 1/2 MOA and was hell on groundhogs,fox,coons, coyotes, porcupines,crows and even a badger I had a bad angle on and mistook for an enormous groundhog. Still feel bad about that guy. They were quite explosive even at those mild velocities and where of no use on anything edible of the small game variety. I still have 1K plus of them about the place. Great bullet in my experience

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I can vouch for the 52gr bucket mouth & the 52 gr speer match in a fast twist 223.
Both shoot tight groups, the Match is great for coyotes, maybe the perfect bullet for fur hunters.
The big mouth is fer blowing sciht up and shoots as good as the match, but lacks a little BC. Can be loaded to 3300
FPS easy, for both types. TNT's won't usually hold up in a fast twist 223 barrel, phfutt.


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I've ran 50 TNTs to 3500 fps in a 223 with a 1 in 12 and a 1 in 9 twist, with only a few turning into a "puff" a foot or two out of the barrel...

long ago talking to a Speer Manufacturing manager, he told me that they figure the TNT is good to 3500 fps....and list it lower, because plenty of people would see how much past that they would push it... so they instead list it publicly around 3300 fps...

I've had them hold up to 3700 fps in a one in 12 twist......but I'll concede that wasn't in a consistent basis...

I test stuff like that in my spare time....


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