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The real question is will it return to "normal" or is this the new normal? The answer is: When sufficient supplies exist @ "normal" pricing from retailers that they can fully supply the market and "undercut" the secondary (gray) market folks. OR sufficiently high prices from retailers are enough to curtail the current profiting enjoyed by the secondary (gray) market. The 1st ones to bitch if the retailers raise pricing enough to cut out the gray market, will be the people currently profiting within the gray market.
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This was posted by a local gun shop. FWIW Last time I was in that shop he had the 9mm priced at $17.99/box one box limit and this was probably 3 weeks ago. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/8qSfiaS.jpg) That's just based on economic ignorance. The dealers have to price things with replacement cost in mind, regardless of what they paid for their current inventory. Bullchit, they know more is coming and this will sell almost as quick as it would if it were $20/box so they figure why the hell not mark it up and make $20+ per box. I hope they go out of business for their shenannigans. The nearly empty shelves at every gun shop, big-box retailer, and convenience store suggest otherwise. Perhaps UNCC doesn't teach economics?
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9,3 x 62 Mauser ammo is under $20 a box... abundant supply. Ammoseek.
Talked to Jesse at JES last night... no huge backlog.
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I know this has been discussed before but from someone who actually has to purchase from suppliers, has your price for loaded ammo really gone up 2.5-3X? That appears to be what is reflected locally and online. Big retailers seem to be holding prices and I can't imagine them losing money intentionally. I don't know enough about the ordering to have a valid opinion but it does appear some online vendors and local shops are gouging to take advantage of the situation we are in. Maybe it's the best way to slow down demand while supply catches back up?
Luckily I reload, but still wish I had several thousand more primers on hand. I'm likely stocked up for over a year at the rate I shoot for small rifle and pistol, longer than that for large rifle. I would like to get back to $0.30/rd ammo on .223 so I can just buy it instead of having to load to shoot. Maybe you could name some of these "Big Retailers" that have kept their prices down so some of your fellow shooters can get some reasonably priced ammo, I am seeing either rising prices or empty shelves, usually both. Kaiser Norton Academy, Cabelas, Scheels, Rogers Sporting Goods Walmart still has fridge packs of 100 game load 12 gauge for $21.94 But we all know the virtue signaling Caribou Bob’s still suck their local LGS cock and “rootin tootin I wont step foot in a walmarts couldnt pay me to go in there, might snag my bolo tie on somethin made in chiner and get choked” I bought ten of them a week ago. Paid more for the ten packs of 20 though.
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The nearly empty shelves at every gun shop, big-box retailer, and convenience store suggest otherwise. Perhaps UNCC doesn't teach economics?
A couple of the ones I’m speaking of get in regular shipments nearly weekly, yet they still charge $40/50 for 9mm and $1/rd for 223/5.56. I suppose there are people desperate or dumb enough to pay it, but myself and lots of others see it as gouging and these will be the last places I frequent if it ever turns around. I’ve seen one in particular, Hyatt’s charging ridiculous prices on standard and HV 22 LR, $18.99 for a box of 50. It didn’t appear to be moving that fast so I thank them for keeping it that high so supply maybe can catch up with demand. The post by that shop in VA confirms what I thought was happening, LGS taking advantage of their loyal customers. They shouldn’t be surprised if they go under when or if times get good again. Maybe they are afraid it won’t and are making as much as they can while they can.
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Saw a shop that had ww 3030 for 29.99 a box.
150 gr i think.
Old factory stuff they bought off somebody proly.
Somebody commented the crap was worth a 100 a box LOL
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.223 is a buck a round these parts.
Thats 2.5x normal price.
It moves but not super fast
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.223 is a buck a round these parts.
Thats 2.5x normal price.
It moves but not super fast I bought a 1000 rounds of 223 62gr hollow points yesterday for $360. Lucked into it though. 
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Saw a shop that had ww 3030 for 29.99 a box.
150 gr i think.
Old factory stuff they bought off somebody proly.
Somebody commented the crap was worth a 100 a box LOL Holy schitt. Hookeye just made Bwana!!! ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/Kvq2cvQV/painting-of-god-touching-finger-30.jpg)
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At the LGS yesterday and they had .223 PMC Broze for 14.99 and PMC Tac for 16.99 per 20. I didn’t buy any since I don’t “need” any.
If it was .222 Rem Mag brass (or loaded 🤓) I’d have been all over it. I’m focusing my current attention on the old Bofors Sako Varmint rifle I inherited.
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Saw a shop that had ww 3030 for 29.99 a box.
150 gr i think.
Old factory stuff they bought off somebody proly.
Somebody commented the crap was worth a 100 a box LOL Holy schitt. Hookeye just made Bwana!!! Never gonna catch up to silent mod though. Sniffin paint and posting, you got bof skillz. Not even grasshopper level here
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At the LGS yesterday and they had .223 PMC Broze for 14.99 and PMC Tac for 16.99 per 20. I didn’t buy any since I don’t “need” any.
If it was .222 Rem Mag brass (or loaded 🤓) I’d have been all over it. I’m focusing my current attention on the old Bofors Sako Varmint rifle I inherited. Bronze at RK was 7.20 pre panic, normally 7.99
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New picture, Bomagaars Supply Storm Lake, Iowa. Nothin' but shotshells. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/da7jxWV.jpg)
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At the LGS yesterday and they had .223 PMC Broze for 14.99 and PMC Tac for 16.99 per 20. I didn’t buy any since I don’t “need” any.
If it was .222 Rem Mag brass (or loaded 🤓) I’d have been all over it. I’m focusing my current attention on the old Bofors Sako Varmint rifle I inherited. Back in the 1980s, it was about $5.00 for twenty.
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The nearly empty shelves at every gun shop, big-box retailer, and convenience store suggest otherwise. Perhaps UNCC doesn't teach economics?
A couple of the ones I’m speaking of get in regular shipments nearly weekly, yet they still charge $40/50 for 9mm and $1/rd for 223/5.56. I suppose there are people desperate or dumb enough to pay it, but myself and lots of others see it as gouging and these will be the last places I frequent if it ever turns around. I’ve seen one in particular, Hyatt’s charging ridiculous prices on standard and HV 22 LR, $18.99 for a box of 50. It didn’t appear to be moving that fast so I thank them for keeping it that high so supply maybe can catch up with demand.The post by that shop in VA confirms what I thought was happening, LGS taking advantage of their loyal customers. They shouldn’t be surprised if they go under when or if times get good again. Maybe they are afraid it won’t and are making as much as they can while they can. The only way this gets "solved" is for the retailer to take the margin out of the grey market. I don't get it, you're pissed about $40-$50 9MM and $1/round 223's and glad for $19/50 .22lr's????
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.223 is a buck a round these parts.
Thats 2.5x normal price.
It moves but not super fast I bought a 1000 rounds of 223 62gr hollow points yesterday for $360. Lucked into it though. Sweet! Im only needing some plinker .22 rf for the kid. As she cant do recoil for health reasons. Port is on right side so proly get a Buckmark and put reflex on it. She said she'd try rifle on the left, but is right eye dominant. Wears glasses so could tape a lens. Still w retina risk...rimfire only.
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CCI will sell 9MM ammo to the public when available at $20 a box of 50..
So much for manufacturers outrageously jacking up prices.
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At the LGS yesterday and they had .223 PMC Broze for 14.99 and PMC Tac for 16.99 per 20. I didn’t buy any since I don’t “need” any.
If it was .222 Rem Mag brass (or loaded 🤓) I’d have been all over it. I’m focusing my current attention on the old Bofors Sako Varmint rifle I inherited. Back in the 1980s, it was about $5.00 for twenty. We sold it in my shop in the 2000’s for $4.95. We also sold 8# jugs of pistol powder for $35 when we had bought into a huge overstock. I was merely suggesting that $15 or $16 still ain’t a $1 a round, not that it was a screaming deal. Hence my not buying. Gas was a nickel and we walked to school 5 miles each way, up hill......
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The nearly empty shelves at every gun shop, big-box retailer, and convenience store suggest otherwise. Perhaps UNCC doesn't teach economics?
A couple of the ones I’m speaking of get in regular shipments nearly weekly, yet they still charge $40/50 for 9mm and $1/rd for 223/5.56. I suppose there are people desperate or dumb enough to pay it, but myself and lots of others see it as gouging and these will be the last places I frequent if it ever turns around. I’ve seen one in particular, Hyatt’s charging ridiculous prices on standard and HV 22 LR, $18.99 for a box of 50. It didn’t appear to be moving that fast so I thank them for keeping it that high so supply maybe can catch up with demand.The post by that shop in VA confirms what I thought was happening, LGS taking advantage of their loyal customers. They shouldn’t be surprised if they go under when or if times get good again. Maybe they are afraid it won’t and are making as much as they can while they can. The only way this gets "solved" is for the retailer to take the margin out of the grey market. I don't get it, you're pissed about $40-$50 9MM and $1/round 223's and glad for $19/50 .22lr's???? It’s a joke.
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.223 is a buck a round these parts.
Thats 2.5x normal price.
It moves but not super fast I bought a 1000 rounds of 223 62gr hollow points yesterday for $360. Lucked into it though. Sweet! Im only needing some plinker .22 rf for the kid. As she cant do recoil for health reasons. Port is on right side so proly get a Buckmark and put reflex on it. She said she'd try rifle on the left, but is right eye dominant. Wears glasses so could tape a lens. Still w retina risk...rimfire only. If you need some .22lr for your daughter to shoot, PM me, and I'll send her plenty. No charge.
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