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Starman,

Interesting those Pre 64 prices. Compared to the standard M70 the Super Grade is a much bigger increase in price today.

Current collector type prices for a long discontinued
model have no relevance to what Winchester charged
at the time of production.

Regarding an Echols Classic in H&H, D'Arcy prefers
to convert a regular pre-64 270 or .30-06 action for
such [to his standards], coz Win. didn't do a great
job of it.


extract from: 'Kenya Guns and Days' -Finn Aagaard

An aquantance had two Pre-war pre-64s restocked
.300hh and .375hh,
nice rigs but not what I would want to lug around...
The same in magnum Mauser configuration
with all the Safari features are even heavier.

a STD cal. Echols between .270 and 338-06 that's
lighter to carry / faster to swing more my cup of tea.
but still a bit full bodied for my liking. - Ralf Martini
can build a great trim rifle for the bush.

We all have to be on some kind of esp connective wavelength, came in last night, stoked up the fireplace stove, washed up, had a hot supper, poured up 64 Drams 16 year Glenmorangie, went to the safe and got out my pre-64's in 300 and 375 H&H, the 300 wears a Lyman receiver peep and fires 220gr partitions at 2750 fps over H-4831, the 375 wears a 1.5-5 Leupold in QD rings and fires 300gr partitions gr 2680 and and bbw #13 solids at 2700 over RL-17, cleaned scope with lenspen, gave em both a good wipedown with a lightly oiled rag using Lucas Extreme, worked the bolts, shouldered and pointed, fine old rifles, I like em both.

So another relatively good is 375 a bigbore thread.

We got the usual references on both sides.

The majority of international gun sites, refer to is as a bigbore

Guns international call it a smallbore, which probably hasnt been seen since the blackpowder bore gun era. Samuel white Baker used to call anything under 577 BP a nice smallbore.

We got guys like Jack Lott and Boddington intimating or directly referrinng to it as both a bigbore and medium whenever it suits them.

We have people who can look at the above and agree its down to personal opinion, what a gunwriter is feeling at the time, the direction the wind is blowing.

We also of course have people who stick to one side of the argument, even quoting writers to make their point, when the writers themselves call it both things.

Also earnest thanks to Starman and others for the articles posted, always a great read. Another suggestion would be a bigbore article thread. I dont have many links. One I have been chasing is Ross Seyfrieds first 585 nyati article. if anyone can oblige on that, much appreciated.

To me, .375 is medium bore, big bore starts at .40-.41 or bigger. That’s just my opinion. I do love my 375’s as well as my .416 RM.