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Ran 4 mags through it in the back yard just now. Tight, accurate, comfortable in the hands. I’m liking it. Wanted to at least try a 365 but none available in my AO and this was over a hundo less than MSRP. Paid $479.00 plus tax, new in the box. 11 & 13 rd Mags and a soft zippered case. Only con is I experienced some serious trigger slap.
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Ran 4 mags through it in the back yard just now. Tight, accurate, comfortable in the hands. I’m liking it. Wanted to at least try a 365 but none available in my AO and this was over a hundo less than MSRP. Paid $479.00 plus tax, new in the box. 11 & 13 rd Mags and a soft zippered case. Only vin is I experienced some serious trigger slap. Trigger slap can be painful. I love my CZ-75 P-01, other than that damned trigger slap. I can only tolerate about 50 rounds before the pad of my trigger finger is too banged up to tolerate any more.
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I run a 365 and haven't shot the Hellcat, but you did good on the price based on what I've seen around here.
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In these times, I wouldn't have waited on a 365 that I thought I might like better. I'd have bought the Hellcat too. Especially when it included 4 mags.
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You definitely did good on the price of the Hellcat. Can't get them here for that.
I can't speak of how they shoot. Never shot or owned one.
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Thats a good price. Trigger slap in my Dan Wesson was spoiling my enjoyment of the gun. A 1911 guru told me what he thought the reason might be. I sent his explanation along with a note to DW about it. They asked for the handgun back, turned it around quickly and the slap was gone.
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Not to highjack - what is trigger slap?
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Not to highjack - what is trigger slap? Google "Trigger Slap."
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Anybody handled the new Hellcat RDP?
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Not to highjack - what is trigger slap? Three are three definitions I can think of off hand, the one that seems to apply here is an interaction between the slide, the disconnector, and the trigger return mechanism that snaps the trigger forward when the slide returns to battery. It can sting your finger and add up after shooting for a while. Some folks call trigger slap what I think of as trigger pinch. Trigger pinch is when the fleshy part of your finger get pinched between the bottom of the trigger and the trigger guard when the trigger resets. Finally, some shooters slap the trigger to increase speed instead of riding the reset. Some very good shooters, such as Rob Leatham, are trigger slappers, but it's not for everyone.
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Not to highjack - what is trigger slap? Google "Trigger Slap." Man I wish I had thought of that - oh wait, I did and got about 20 versions of what trigger slap might be.
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I’m a fan of the Hellcat’s sights.
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Not to highjack - what is trigger slap? Google "Trigger Slap." Man I wish I had thought of that - oh wait, I did and got about 20 versions of what trigger slap might be. Join a discussion forum of like-minded individuals discussing a similar topic and then ask the question of presumably knowledgable and helpful members. Oh wait, never mind.
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Not to highjack - what is trigger slap? Google "Trigger Slap." Man I wish I had thought of that - oh wait, I did and got about 20 versions of what trigger slap might be. I meant the trigger resetting stings your finger after about 30 rds. People talk about it with the cz75 but I haven’t noticed it too bad on mine. The hellcat, it’s pretty noticeable.
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In reference to "trigger slap", that is not a mechanical defect more so than a training issue.
When you as the shooter pulls the trigger straight to the rear and the pistol fires, don't take your finger far enough off the trigger that it completely comes to its initial/full length of travel. Control the trigger by allowing the gun to fire, then (doing so slowly at first), allow the trigger to come forward only just enough to allow the sear to re-engage, and no more.
Now you are at the point you can either pull the trigger to the rear, with a shortened length of pull, or you can come all the way off the trigger and start over at the beginning.
In practicing this trigger control drill you can often hear the sear re-engage, and feel the trigger/sear re-setting.
Now rinse and repeat a bunch of times and I am betting that the "trigger slap" problem goes away on a whole bunch of different guns.
That may not have been verbally explained in the most descriptive way, but there are probably no shortage of online videos that can be watched explaining trigger reset. As an added bonus, the very vast majority of people find that their accuracy improves once they begin to control the trigger in the manner explained above.
Hope that helps.
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Thought it was explained very well, And your explanation will work fine. Does take a while to get used to it though, at least it did for me. Old dogs, new tricks, kind of thing.
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Now I understand trigger slap. Having been a deliberate shooter as a younger guy it's never happened to me.
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OWB holster showed yesterday. Comfortable to carry compared to my USP.
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