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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15825284 02/22/21
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I have been shooting a custom 6-06 for a while. 25” Bartlein 1:9. I set it up to shoot 105 Berger’s and the 1:9 handles those great. I had thought 1:8 but my gunsmith had built a lot and recommended the 1:9.

My wife has started hunting with this a bunch and kills stuff near and far.

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I switched this past year to the 95 LRX for a bit less meat damage and better exits. Probably sticking with that for a while.

I don’t know how much more I will personally hunt with it as I am losing interest in long range shooting but is nice to have a light recoiling and accurate rifle that most people can shoot well.

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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: Hondo64d] #15825331 02/22/21
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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
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Probably going to be my next build. Which one and what twist for the 105's? Thanks, powdr


Going to need a long action either way, so between your two choices, I’d go 6mm-06. I’d probably go 8” twist, but might do a little reading up on the 108s, etc before making a decision.

John


I have a 6mm Rem, with a 1 in 7 twist....24 inch barrel on a Model 700 Long Action....

Seating the bullets out to magazine length ( bullets of 90 or greater weight), when compared against some of a few buddies with 240 Weatherbys, over a chrony,
mine equals them in velocity and exceeded them at times, depending on powder...

H 414 and RL 19 are Rock Stars in my long action 6mm Remington on a long action...




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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: EdM] #15825669 02/23/21
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Answer------.243 1x8 or 1x7.7 twist


Why not that combo in a 700 long action for the longer bullets?


Because a 100 gr Hornady InterLock out of a 243 Win will kill any deer or hog in Texas?


That be true (in Texas or anywhere else), but there'd be no need for a fast twist bbl then.

Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15826042 02/23/21
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If I weren't into shooting long range, and didn't plan on high b.c. bullets, I'd just buy a factory 243 or 6 creed. The extra speed from a wildcat like a 6'06 is pointless in normal hunting ranges


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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15826697 02/23/21
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I would have no use for a 6-06.Seem's tome the case has got so big that only monolithic bullet's could handle the velocity.!

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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15827147 02/23/21
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I agree, the only reason I'd want to push a 6mm bullet that hard would be for long range...


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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: MedRiver] #15827444 02/23/21
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Originally Posted by MedRiver
I have been shooting a custom 6-06 for a while. 25” Bartlein 1:9. I set it up to shoot 105 Berger’s and the 1:9 handles those great. I had thought 1:8 but my gunsmith had built a lot and recommended the 1:9.

My wife has started hunting with this a bunch and kills stuff near and far.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I switched this past year to the 95 LRX for a bit less meat damage and better exits. Probably sticking with that for a while.

I don’t know how much more I will personally hunt with it as I am losing interest in long range shooting but is nice to have a light recoiling and accurate rifle that most people can shoot well.



She whacked some dandy's!!!!!

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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: MedRiver] #15828465 02/23/21
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Originally Posted by MedRiver
I have been shooting a custom 6-06 for a while. 25” Bartlein 1:9. I set it up to shoot 105 Berger’s and the 1:9 handles those great. I had thought 1:8 but my gunsmith had built a lot and recommended the 1:9.

My wife has started hunting with this a bunch and kills stuff near and far.

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

I switched this past year to the 95 LRX for a bit less meat damage and better exits. Probably sticking with that for a while.

I don’t know how much more I will personally hunt with it as I am losing interest in long range shooting but is nice to have a light recoiling and accurate rifle that most people can shoot well.


Dude yer wife (yer whole family really) is so damned cool I love those pics of you guys hunting together.

95 LRX from that cartridge seems tough to beat.

I’ve always wanted a 6x57 AI or 6-06 with a fast twist. Very cool!


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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15830261 02/24/21
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Dog catcher22, I am wondering what you call long range???? Rio7

Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: Seafire] #15832917 02/24/21
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[/quote]

I have a 6mm Rem, with a 1 in 7 twist....24 inch barrel on a Model 700 Long Action....

Seating the bullets out to magazine length ( bullets of 90 or greater weight), when compared against some of a few buddies with 240 Weatherbys, over a chrony,
mine equals them in velocity and exceeded them at times, depending on powder...

H 414 and RL 19 are Rock Stars in my long action 6mm Remington on a long action...
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Good to know you're still "exceeding" the velocity of larger cartridges with you special loading techniques.


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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: MedRiver] #15832928 02/24/21
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MedRiver,

Good deal! And great animals.

The best non-mono 6mm bullet I've used for less meat damage is the 115 Berger Hunting VLD, due to it's moderate muzzle velocity. But love the monos as well.


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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15833836 02/25/21
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I understand the rifle loonyness of wanting a wildcat or something different but If I wanted something faster than a stock 243 or 6mm rem, I'd move up to a 25-06 or a go for the gold and get a 257 Wby.


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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: boatanchor] #15834214 02/25/21
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+ 2, couse my son has one. Laser/tack driver. PAC-NOR 26 " 8 twist.

Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: Mule Deer] #15839439 02/26/21
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer



Good to know you're still "exceeding" the velocity of larger cartridges with you special loading techniques.


Ha! Was thinking same. I'd prefer not to be behind or beside a 6MM Rem "equaling or exceeding" 240 Wby velocities. Yikes!

Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15839497 02/26/21
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Originally Posted by powdr
Probably going to be my next build. Which one and what twist for the 105's? Thanks, powdr


8 twist 6-06 all the way. Long action allows for more latitude with bullet seating, COAL, etc. Also super easy to load for. One pass through a 6-06 die with a 25-06 case and you're good to go. Will scoot 105's along at an easy 3300 fps. Run the numbers on that! Pretty darn impressive. Also, you can always throttle back if you want 6mm remmy numbers. Regret selling my 6-06. It was hell on deer and hogs with 105 Hybrids at 3300.

Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15841541 02/26/21
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I just went through a 6mm AI build, a 25-06 build and a new 257 Weatherby and like all of them. The 6 AI does come close to the Weatherby, 6x284 & 6-06, it may trail those by 50-75 fps maybe more. In 6mm you hit increasingly diminishing returns at the 6mm AI or 240 WBY capacities.

If you want to shoot 115s go faster than a 1-8 they shoot fine in my rifle but I am sure I am loosing some BC.

The 6-06 I think you could shoot it at 6AI velocities and maybe coax a little more barrel life out of it. Brass is easier to come by too.

Does my 6AI do anything I can't do with the 243s, don't think so except for ranges over 500 yrds or so, farther than I shoot at game, but it has more cool factor.

Standard 6mm is a better case design with longer barrel life than the 243 and usually 100-150 fps extra velocity.

Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: Mule Deer] #15842572 Yesterday at 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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I have a 6mm Rem, with a 1 in 7 twist....24 inch barrel on a Model 700 Long Action....

Seating the bullets out to magazine length ( bullets of 90 or greater weight), when compared against some of a few buddies with 240 Weatherbys, over a chrony,
mine equals them in velocity and exceeded them at times, depending on powder...

H 414 and RL 19 are Rock Stars in my long action 6mm Remington on a long action...



Good to know you're still "exceeding" the velocity of larger cartridges with you special loading techniques.[/quote]

its no different than the concept on what they are doing with the Creedmoor every one loves so much... is it?




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Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: Seafire] #15843574 Yesterday at 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by Mule Deer


I have a 6mm Rem, with a 1 in 7 twist....24 inch barrel on a Model 700 Long Action....

Seating the bullets out to magazine length ( bullets of 90 or greater weight), when compared against some of a few buddies with 240 Weatherbys, over a chrony,
mine equals them in velocity and exceeded them at times, depending on powder...

H 414 and RL 19 are Rock Stars in my long action 6mm Remington on a long action...



Good to know you're still "exceeding" the velocity of larger cartridges with you special loading techniques.[/quote]

its no different than the concept on what they are doing with the Creedmoor every one loves so much... is it?
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I have never read a post where someone was going on about using a 6.5 creedmoor on a long action and seating the bullet a certain way to exceed velocities of a 6.5-06.

Also kinda funny someone calls you out on a post where your loading technique is questioned and your reply is the creedmoor lol!!! I can’t imagine how adults can be so bothered by a middle of the road type factory chambering.



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Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by Mule Deer


I have a 6mm Rem, with a 1 in 7 twist....24 inch barrel on a Model 700 Long Action....

Seating the bullets out to magazine length ( bullets of 90 or greater weight), when compared against some of a few buddies with 240 Weatherbys, over a chrony,
mine equals them in velocity and exceeded them at times, depending on powder...

H 414 and RL 19 are Rock Stars in my long action 6mm Remington on a long action...



Good to know you're still "exceeding" the velocity of larger cartridges with you special loading techniques.[/quote]

its no different than the concept on what they are doing with the Creedmoor every one loves so much... is it?
[/quote]

I have never read a post where someone was going on about using a 6.5 creedmoor on a long action and seating the bullet a certain way to exceed velocities of a 6.5-06.

Also kinda funny someone calls you out on a post where your loading technique is questioned and your reply is the creedmoor lol!!! I can’t imagine how adults can be so bothered by a middle of the road type factory chambering.



Re: 6mm-06 or standard 6mm [Re: powdr] #15843708 Yesterday at 12:28 PM
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You can say that again.......





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