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That's fugged up.


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WTH, article says avg. household will have $5000. bill, for electricity? Jeezus...make me happy about my little tiny monthly bill of less than a hondo...


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13 miles from the house here: 2470 Megawatts


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I say PUCT them.....PUCT them right in the ear.


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From what I read, it sounds like they were victims of “Electricity Choice” or whatever they call it. You get to choose the generating company that you want, sometimes in exchange for a guaranteed rate for a certain period, then the hammer drops. That guy’s plan had a variable rate structure that allowed them to fugg him good under the emergency conditions. He also has three meters on his bill.

My father got hit with a $700+ bill some years ago when his heat pump quit without him noticing, He ran on the coils for a good while, which is like heating your house by burning money.


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I'm on one of the FDR/Sam Rayburn electric co-ops: my current bill is $200, highest I've ever paid. Next month's bill should be a screamer because I'm running a heat pump and my heat strips were kicking on a lot the past two weeks.


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All those folks that ditched their old utility and signed up with the trendy new energy middlemen are now going to swear they never noticed the fine print. And you, or someone else who didn't take that chance, are going to bail them out.

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Originally Posted by Pappy348
From what I read, it sounds like they were victims of “Electricity Choice” or whatever they call it. You get to choose the generating company that you want, sometimes in exchange for a guaranteed rate for a certain period, then the hammer drops. That guy’s plan had a variable rate structure that allowed them to fugg him good under the emergency conditions. He also has three meters on his bill.

My father got hit with a $700+ bill some years ago when his heat pump quit without him noticing, He ran on the coils for a good while, which is like heating your house by burning money.


My renter will probably cry me a sob next month about the legtric bill. lol
At 6 degrees the ‘heat pump’ dont work anymore. I told her to flip that little blue light on the AUX side of the tstat. kick them 15kw heat banks in for a few days. eek laugh


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You cann't have it both ways. You can not advocate for free markets and fossil fuels and then get upset when you get huge bills. Then you want gov't. regulation (PUC) to keep rates low.

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things are always "Bigger" in TX

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Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by Pappy348
From what I read, it sounds like they were victims of “Electricity Choice” or whatever they call it. You get to choose the generating company that you want, sometimes in exchange for a guaranteed rate for a certain period, then the hammer drops. That guy’s plan had a variable rate structure that allowed them to fugg him good under the emergency conditions. He also has three meters on his bill.

My father got hit with a $700+ bill some years ago when his heat pump quit without him noticing, He ran on the coils for a good while, which is like heating your house by burning money.


My renter will probably cry me a sob next month about the legtric bill. lol
At 6 degrees the ‘heat pump’ dont work anymore. I told her to flip that little blue light on the AUX side of the tstat. kick them 15kw heat banks in for a few days. eek laugh


Fuggin landlords.

Had a place down near Sucktomento when the wife was working down there. One "winter" month, we could hear the heat pump fan running trying to bring heat. Called the property mgmt company, they had to call the "slumlord" to get authorization for the HVAC dude to come out. He gets there and fiddles with it some, says it's making some heat, adjusts some scheidt up in there, and leaves. Bill comes, 3-4 times higher than a normal bill. We get him back out there again, after another 2 weeks of trying to get service. He goes up and fiddle farts around some more, says it's got a bad compressor or some such. He'll order the parts. In the meantime he tells us we'll be running on the heater bars or whatever the fudge he called them. I asked about them. He said it would be like running 10-15 space heaters in the house at the same time. WTF I says, we're diggin out the sweaters. Finally got it fixed and bills returned to normal. About the time the weather started to warm up.

I figured we deserved a cut in the rent, we signed a lease agreement for a house with a properly functioning HVAC system. Fuggin' slumlords, capitalist pigs they be. Makin' money off'n alla us po fokes.

Worst I've seen it community wide was in '07-'08 in Juneau when avalanches took out the transmission lines from the hydro power plant. Had to go on the diesel back up system. Electric bills quadrupled immediately. Interesting phenomenon, usage for the area dropped by over half within a month. Folks started hanging laundry in the basement near the furnace again, turning off/pulling the plug for appliances that were "on standby" all the time, going to bed earlier,etc. Big deal up there, the power company/politicians etc were all making a fuss about "why can't we always be this conscious". Folks came from Sweden or Norway or some such too, to see how it was happening. Mostly went right back to the old way when the transmission lines were fixed.


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Someone brought this issue up before and now that it's on fox newz, it's magically transformed from "conspiracy theory" to reality.
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One outlet during the outage said that the actual kwh cost was between 2-5 cents.
That would make the utilities the biggest monopolistic return for those investors.

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Originally Posted by Gremlin1104
You cann't have it both ways. You can not advocate for free markets and fossil fuels and then get upset when you get huge bills. Then you want gov't. regulation (PUC) to keep rates low.

I think there's corruption involved.
It's not a socialist vs. capitalist type of Steelers vs Dallas issue.
....its complicated

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Originally Posted by mirage243
This guy had his power bill on Auto-Pay, they took 17K out of his checking for last months power bill. Mf'ers ought to be hung.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-resident-nearly-17000-dollar-power-bill-winter-storm
Yep - and another lady got a bill for $16K.... That sucks...


No one should have to pay that.... that is worse than Mafia style loan sharking...

State of Texas put in to play, they should be taking care of such bills....


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That chit oughta be classified as aggravated robbery.

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I can’t believe people use autopay for this exact reason! It takes all of 1 minute to log in, enter the amount owed and the payment date and then clicking submit!

Stoopid to give others direct access to your money.


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The only one it benefits are the company's you let access your bank account.

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Originally Posted by sherm_61
The only one it benefits are the company's you let access your bank account.

True
They overcharge through the winter and call it an estimate. Then they invest their extra millions for that month and get major returns.

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Beats the hell out of my last months $1900 water bill.

But mine wasn't on some silly direct payment out of my account. We negotiated.

Had it been instant??

Wake up people!. Handle your business directly. Face to face if you have to. All this electronic BS just invites atrocities like this.

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Originally Posted by gunzo
Beats the hell out of my last months $1900 water bill.

But mine wasn't on some silly direct payment out of my account. We negotiated.

Had it been instant??

Wake up people!. Handle your business directly. Face to face if you have to. All this electronic BS just invites atrocities like this.

Oh man!
Was there a line break?

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