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Horseschit.

The highest legal authority in the US is compromised, or corrupt. You pick. Doesn't matter. It's not working for US CITIZENS.

It is not working for you and I.

It is working just fine for the rapidly increasing liberal majority.

Should ANFA and BLM rioters have been shot when they threw bricks at police? How about when they set fires?

Hmmm.
Actually the highest legal authority declined to hear a bunch of cases and thus declined to rule....

If a woman cries rape, but nobody hears it...
Did it actually happen?

Have you read Justice Thomas's dissent on "declined to hear"?

You are free to make up your own mind but might I ask you to listen to this take on it:
https://rumble.com/ve3qj-justice-thomas-blistering-cert-denial-dissent-viva-frei-vlawg.html

Since you are asking, I don't know what I would do in those circumstances, and one might expect to get put down, handcuffed and arrested for climbing in. But - would an unarmed woman normally expect to be shot in the face at almost point blank range in that circumstance? If such LE reaction were to be normal procedure, just think about how many looters in how many situations in how may cities would be shot in the face for climbing in through a broken window,

Some states allow a home/ business owner to
shoot a break/enter intruder in the face at PBR.
naturally LE are also permitted to do the same
in certain circumstances....so there you go ,
a regular citizen can do what cops can do.


You don't know what you would do as a protester
Likewise if you were Capitol building security you
still dont know what you might do..



Breaking into the Capitol building is not normal
or common for citizens , so I would not expect
a normal LE type response from security assigned
to protect elected officials which the armed mob
was attempting to reach.

AshB chose to be part of that armed mob
forcing their way to the chamber, yet you
think it unreasonable she got shot for leading
the way for a pack of armed felons.

They were pushing their luck way beyond what
any reasonable person would attempt, so one
would be a fool to think that security needs to
be more reasonable in response at that stage.

Clearly there's a point where security does not
negotiate which an armed mob , and AshB for
the benefit of the rest of her mob showed where
that was and what one can expect if they decide
to continue.

Security did not go hunting for AshB,
she ardently went looking for and poking
the lions at the gate and got more than
she bargained for...

Some states, some circumstances, and from that you want to make a grand conclusion? You are continuing the leap to ridiculous. Why not take a poll and find out how many experienced and thinking people here agree with you? No - I meant a real/honest poll.

Polls have nothing to do with the LAW.
Now, including the Constitution the nation
is a nation of Laws not dumbfck polls.
You don't like the laws?, then do something
to formally change them ..(hint- you won't
achieve that through internet polls)

Some laws permit a regular citizen and LE
to shoot a felony intruder....there are laws
that also permit a regular citizen and LE
to shoot someone who is life threatening
another party....there are many good citizens
who appreciate such laws being in place.

Since you like polls , run one to find out if
folks like being able to shoot an intruder
&/or shoot a perp who is about to harm another.

WOW ! You must be an expert on shooting people.

Starman,

What are the laws concerning the 4th Amendment and the Capitol Building, as they relate to uniformed LEO's?

The data does not show that there is a "rapidly increasing liberal majority." The Left (not liberals) now controls the Democratic Party. The Left also controls the media, entertainment including sports, education and increasingly, large corporations. However, that does not mean that they have a real majority of voters. That's why the Democrats want to import lots of illegal immigrants from Central America and make them citizens. They need to change the electorate in order to maintain control. They were only able to beat Trump in 2020 by radically and unconstitutionally changing the election laws in battleground states and then counting mail-in votes without any real authentication as well as other election shenanigans in the large cities.. Even then, they barely won. That's why they are trying to consolidate control now. The battle isn't over.

No just common sense and logic which you lack.

#1 Follow the law and greatly mitigate ones
chances of getting shot by a good citizen or LE.

#2 Use the Law to one's advantage if one finds
themselves up against a perp./armed mob...coz
that's what laws are designed and enacted for.

If that does not compute with you
it could be down syndrome or some
other cognitive disability.

quote=Starman]

No just common sense and logic which you lack.
#1 Follow the law and greatly mitigate ones
chances of getting shot by a good citizen or LE.
#2 Use the Law to one's advantage if one finds
themselves up against an armed mob...coz that's
what laws are designed and enacted for.

If that does not compute with you
it could be down syndrome or some
other cognitive disability.
[/quote]

My 13 week old puppy knows more about the law then you.

I double checked with a buddy a week after the shooting , he used to work for Capitol police for 7 years, then went to another agency.

Yep like it or not use of deadly force was justified According to their agency’s policies. I don’t agree but that’s the law. The protesters were set up by the Dems and professional instigators. and you could see that coming from a mile away especially after last summer.

Maybe just deal with facts and the actual law instead incoherent rambling.


Post the CP’ s use of force policies regarding forced entry into the Capitol. Pretty simple

Yet I had to correct you when you wrongly argued
the law of Ilinois regarding Kyle Rittenhouse...
irrelevantly citing how the law applies to you
as an adult rather than the actual case of
teenage Rittenhouse..TFF.




For starters Policy is not Law.

But You double checked CP policy and
categorically state it was a "legal" shoot.

in the recent past I have posted reference to
SCOTUS rulings regarding Fed. LE and what
they have range to do under the law, but AshB
defenders didn't seem interested in such.

CCCC prefers polls over understanding of LAW.

Am I being defensive or are you because you know that you are a hypocrite? The simple fact is the house chamber was the line that could not be crossed without exception and she crossed it and she is dead because of it. They are not going to prosecute or release the guys name and they shouldn't. What amazes me is how stupid you have to be not to understand that. What kind of idiot thinks they can threaten the lives of elected officials without ramifications. Are you really that stupid to think that only the president's life is protected? You have to be full blown retard.

So in our state right now we are fighting a stand your ground right. But yet y’all are saying it’s ok to shoot a unarmed person. Who in the hell would be in fear of their life by this girl. But it’s ok to have rapist come in my house rape my wife and daughter and me not be able to do anything. Plus come and take any piece of my property and me not have the right to protect it. So what did she do to deserve to be shot for?

Folks keep singling out AshB as unarmed ,
Ignoring she was part of an armed mob.

If you had an armed mob breaking into
your property , would you give leniency
to anyone of them if they got too close
to your family or friends?..I suppose if
you can't see a weapon you must safely
assume the felon doesnt have one...LoL.

AFAIC, any adult who willfully choses to run
with such a mob in the act of felony is not
exempt from equal treatment, especially
when they are the individual leading the pack
through the window.

Starman, you may be a self-conscious ignoramus - which would explain and maybe excuse some of your rambling - but there is no excuse for your trying to state what is in my mind or what I prefer. Because, that you simply do not know - you are ignorant of that - even though you repeatedly try to say that you do. I suggested a poll because that might help you gain some light on your personal subject.