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Not sure where to post this, but since it is an Alaskan..seems natural here. I am currently finishing up the conversion of my 1895G to 450 AK Imp, and desperately need a set of dies for it. I do have a set, but they are for the original 450 Straight; they work, but would like to get the correct set. I have talked to all of makers, and the wait is ridiculous, like two years... Somebody must have a set they don't need I buy can off them..or know somebody that does have one?
I am in the finally throws of this, and should be testing it this weekend if the weather holds out here in eastern CO.
Thanks, 577NitroExpress... <<< I built one of these too.
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Suggest posting this in the Big Bore Levers and Classifieds forums also.
Cool wildcat round.
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Suggest posting this in the Big Bore Levers and Classifieds forums also.
Cool wildcat round.
Thank you will do. Yes, I'm excited to go shoot it. MUCH myth and misconception around it for sure... 577Nitro
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Not sure where to post this, but since it is an Alaskan..seems natural here. I am currently finishing up the conversion of my 1895G to 450 AK Imp, and desperately need a set of dies for it. I do have a set, but they are for the original 450 Straight; they work, but would like to get the correct set. I have talked to all of makers, and the wait is ridiculous, like two years... Somebody must have a set they don't need I buy can off them..or know somebody that does have one?
I am in the finally throws of this, and should be testing it this weekend if the weather holds out here in eastern CO.
Thanks, 577NitroExpress... <<< I built one of these too.
Just run you chambering reamer in the ones you have
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I have heard of the 1895 being made into a 450 Alaskan. I always thought the Marlin 1895 was to short for that cartridge, shows what I know. There is a guy on Campfire that goes by "450 Fuller". He may be able to point you to some dies.
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Not sure where to post this, but since it is an Alaskan..seems natural here. I am currently finishing up the conversion of my 1895G to 450 AK Imp, and desperately need a set of dies for it. I do have a set, but they are for the original 450 Straight; they work, but would like to get the correct set. I have talked to all of makers, and the wait is ridiculous, like two years... Somebody must have a set they don't need I buy can off them..or know somebody that does have one?
I am in the finally throws of this, and should be testing it this weekend if the weather holds out here in eastern CO.
Thanks, 577NitroExpress... <<< I built one of these too.
Just run you chambering reamer in the ones you have Dies are hardened to 50 Rockwell, would not cut and probably destroy the reamer..and be too large.
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I have heard of the 1895 being made into a 450 Alaskan. I always thought the Marlin 1895 was to short for that cartridge, shows what I know. There is a guy on Campfire that goes by "450 Fuller". He may be able to point you to some dies. As long as the COL. is 2.55” or less it fits fine and cycles cleanly. Only have to open up the front of the loading gate slightly to handle the fatter mid section, if You use the 450 Straight you don’t have to modify anything.
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You can purchase die blanks. Sizer reamers are available from Dave Kiff
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You can purchase die blanks. Sizer reamers are available from Dave Kiff
Awesome did not know that I was going to try and use a 5 inch piece of left. Over .50 cal barrel I have from a double I built and ream it out. Ill check out Dave Kiff on some blanks. Thanks 577nitro
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577-PM me when you can - There is some confusion among the uninitiated about the 450 Alaskan. They are wildcat cartridges, so the dimensions may vary. The "real 450 AK is the cartridge designed by Harold Johnson of Cooper Landing, AK. in the 1950s- It has about a 25 degree shoulder.
Ballistically, the performance of the 450 Alaskan or 450 Fuller, is about equal to the 45-90 WCF. It surpasses the 45-70 by quite a bit. A "Straight" 450 has no shoulder and it is not a true 450 Alaskan. It is a long tapered case made from the 348 WCF , just like the original. It resembles the 45-90. There are those who think it may feed better in the 86/Model 71 action. Both versions properly chambered will work like they are supposed to. RCBS makes the correct dies.
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577-PM me when you can - There is some confusion among the uninitiated about the 450 Alaskan. They are wildcat cartridges, so the dimensions may vary. The "real 450 AK is the cartridge designed by Harold Johnson of Cooper Landing, AK. in the 1950s- It has about a 25 degree shoulder.
Ballistically, the performance of the 450 Alaskan or 450 Fuller, is about equal to the 45-90 WCF. It surpasses the 45-70 by quite a bit. A "Straight" 450 has no shoulder and it is not a true 450 Alaskan. It is a long tapered case made from the 348 WCF , just like the original. It resembles the 45-90. There are those who think it may feed better in the 86/Model 71 action. Both versions properly chambered will work like they are supposed to. RCBS makes the correct dies.
You are correct on all accounts. I have the gun done, and its shoots fantastic. At this point I'm just testing loads, I proofed it like I always do on a build, tied it down to tire and use a string and stand behind my truck. NO problems, measurements perfect, just as I expected from a Marlin 1895G. The rounds cycle as fast as I can move the lever and not a single jam, I did smooth and polish all internal parts, and it cycles like butter. Quality Cartridge sells formed and head stamped brass, and as much as you want. For me this has been a no brainer, lower pressure for 45/70 equal loads, or greater velocity for equal pressure...its a win win, I just can't be happier with it. I've seen on other post about guys complaining about the recoil..and sold theirs off...I don't understand that mentality, just reduce the loads to 45/70 equivalent. I'll post velocities when I finish up testing if anybody interested. 577Nitro
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