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Yellow and Chocolate. The black ones I’ve had were crazy.
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Silver, Red, etc are breed for color! Black, Yellow, and Chocolate are not forced colors. You agree in your own words with my statement!
Sure, if someone is breeding primarily for color AND is willing to accept negative traits in the parents simply because the breeding will result in offspring of a preferred color, then they are breeding poorly/irresponsibly.
Well, you’re way wrong on most stuff here, but it just appears you’re misinformed and proud of it. ‘Red’ is the original ‘yellow’ Labrador retriever color, and all yellows have differing amounts of differing shades of fur, from almost white, to deep red. Breeding a pair of great hunting yellows, that happen to be on the red end of the spectrum, is in no way ‘forcing color’, as they can be ANY shade and all shades of ‘yellow’. I will say that the lighter, whiter yellow coloring has FAR more to do with forced breeding (among lighter yellow dogs) than the deeper yellows or even reds.....because we’ve had decades of folks wanting ‘white’ or ‘creme’ labs, for cosmetic/show reasons, and pursuing such....while field breeders didn’t push that, it’s proliferated down. Silver OTOH, is not Labrador color....it’s forced from a particular marker that was INTENTIONALLY turned on, by breeding to something that had it turned on already......which was never a lab, to begin with. I fully agree in breeding for aptitude and ability, and not show.....but from a yellow owner perspective, it’s always better to breed yellows to yellows or yellows to blacks. Dual recessives (chocolate and yellow) can bring out undesirable aberrations. From some of your other comments about lab color and breeding, it might be better if field bred labs stayed away from you to begin with.
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My preference is Black. This is TEX. Long gone but not forgotten. Championship bloodline, 98 lbs. of muscle in his prime. He was a great dog:
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l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue
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High_Noon that's a handsome devil. I bet he would have liked my Jackie Brown
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They're all nice. I'd just pick the one that was most interested in you, tiebreaker being size of paws.
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I have always had black until my current Lab, which is yellow. She is in my avatar.
I have fallen in love with yellows because of her. Chocolate is my least favorite.
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My hunting but has had 2 labs out of the same kennel here in W WA. Both English chocolates.
Absolutely great dogs and great hunters. I'm partial to chocolates just because of that.
Aesthetically speaking, I like chocolates, blacks and yellows in that order. I'd steer clear of any silver/white/red type breeders.
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LOL.....’whites’ and ‘reds’ ARE ‘yellows’, with ‘red’ being the original ‘yellow’, and both ‘whites’ and lighter ‘yellows’ being the result of breeding for ‘shade’....as much or more than anything else.....well, except wiemeramer crosses for ‘silver’....which is a blight. I’m not a fan of ‘lighter’ dogs, just because of hiding them, but not because they can’t be any good in the field. Over the last decade, I’d wager there’s FAR more issues with breeding for a specific color, with regards to chocolates......as they're the most recessive color combo.
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I have had blacks or yellows. Right now I have a 7 year old yellow and a 1 year old black male, a grandson of Apache Joe. I take good blood lines over color any day.
Decades of voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten us just that.....
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Like that truck bed with a load of geese photo. Had a yellow that looked pretty much like that one.
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