So...maybe the forum should be LONG RANGE SHOOTING!!

No, long range shooting is when you're aiming at targets.

Ahhh we finally agree... 😂

yes it should be called long range target shooting

Or we could call it "Long Range Hunting". And those who are not interested in long range hunting could go to another heading.

Ringman, that's revolutionary thinking!

Send it!

I always find it funny that we continue to have this argument about long range hunting on a forum called Long Range Hunting......

Most true long range hunters have put in their time , money, and effort to get proficient at their skills but there will always be a few guys who bought the latest and greatest long range rifle and shoot a box of ammo a year and consider themselves ready for anything within sight. The simple fact is there are always going to be those guys out there just as well as there are going to be lots of guys like I have experienced who couldn't hit a deer at 50 yards that is standing still in front of them.... fighting each other on a forum like this where you know most of the responders are serious hunters who spend more time than most practicing their craft is nonsensical at best- but at least it is entertaining....

Bob

I agree. It would also be damn monotonous to do it just one way all the time. It also all boils down to knowing ones own capabilities. Only take the shots YOU are comfortable with. Thats it in a nutshell. 1 shot 1 kill. I dont believe in rodeos.

I am troubled by the mere fact that I agree with RM on this.

I used to spend a lot of time at the range. In the few weeks before deer season there would be dozens of hunters out there that couldn't even get their own rifles on paper. I spent a lot of time helping them sight in their rifles and saw all kinds of crazy crap. Once sighted in many could still not hit the target at 100. I know several shooters I'd trust to make a 1000 yard shot before I'd trust these average guys to make a 100 yard shot.

Most long range hunters use softer high bc bullets. The bullets actually perform quite well at lower velocities and leave large wounds. I've seen game drop like lightning when hit with a 140 vldh 6.5mm bullet. The 215 Berger Hybrid target 308 bullet dropped my bull elk 3 years ago instantly. I've shot elk with accubonds and other bullets but never had one smacked instantly to the ground like that 215 Berger did. Even the 6mm 105 vldh does a quick number on deer. I've also used the 208 amax 308 bullet for a lightning kill and had good luck at range with the 7mm 162 amax. Last year it was a 108 eldm in a 6 Creedmoor that dropped my buck at around 450 yards.

Bb

We rode mules, got up close and personal with the elk. I like to eat a two or three year old dry cow, used a 243 Winchester with a 100g Partition, and the combo never failed as shots were within 75-100 yards. I placed my shot, or did not fire. I think that an 85g Barnes tsx would have done just as well.

Stuff is not hard to kill, practice and be competent with your equipment, have the tools to judge ballistics with atmospherics. If you have a hunting/shooting partner, take careful notice if he slaps the trigger or raises his head up off the gun at the report. Ask him where the cross hair was as the gun fired, if he has no idea, then he will not be a candidate for long range shooting as he will soon demonstrate.

Sorry for the late response to this, but you’re right of course. I guess I’m looking at it from my own experiences and right or wrong, thinking of it as a difference in shot opportunities. Shot opportunities being easier to create with a rifle than a bow.
One example, I’ve been hunting Stone sheep yearly for almost 20 years and although most of the rams killed have been 200yds or less, there’s been a couple just over 400yds. If I had been taking shots at anything within 900yds instead of trying to close the distance, my shot opportunities would have been much higher over the years. The opposite would be if I was using a bow, then my shot opportunities would have been drastically lower. The same would apply to pretty much all the big game hunting I do, even sitting over a call or bait. An animal holding up outside of bow range is still within easy rifle distance.

That's definitely true. I suppose some guys want to maximize the number of opportunities and they practice/train accordingly, while others purposefully make hunting more challenging by using tools that limit opportunities (archery) like you mentioned. Depends on our reasons for hunting. Are we hunting for the meat/kill, or are we doing it for the challenge and the experience more than the meat/kill? Different people have different motivations for hunting, but in all cases it's still called hunting, in my book.

I prefer to get to 20 yards, but there are times where 200 is not possible and other times when 500 is not possible... goat hunting comes to mind... either you are equipped, practiced and confident or you go home empty handed... nothing wrong with ending with an empty hand, but nothing wrong with being prepared and getting it done either.

Damn forum has always been named wrong!

Should have been Long Range Shooting!!

I would have bet you two were related!

Well said....

[/S] For further consideration... [/SARC] What type of scumbag fakes an identity to be a part of a community they've been told their not welcome at? Larry Root, ScottDick, FredDoosh.. What a crew of pathetic bastids - to be banned from the only site on the internet that is pretty much a free-for-all.

Killing game at long distances and having to dope the wind doesn't add up to clean consistent kills. The type of terrain, wind direction, speed and consistency can and will push your point of impact all over the place.