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Hey guys, I am currently running a 2WD 2012 Toyota Tundra w/ the 5.7L V-8. I am considering upgrading my truck to a newer model and I plan to get 4WD this time. I fairly regularly tow my 20 ft equipment-style tandem axle trailer and 32 hp tractor w/ attachments. My Tundra does pretty decent pulling this load and its well within its rated capacity. Still if I end up getting something else, I’m considering a newer Tundra (which mechanically is the same as what I have) and also wondering whether I should consider a 3/4 ton. I don’t really think I need a diesel, so would likely get a gasser 3/4 if I went that way. I’m kind of afraid of all the hyped up Turbo V6 stuff out there and I want something reliable. My Tundra has been nigh on bulletproof for example.

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2019 or newer Toyota Tundra w/ 5.7L 4WD
Ford F-250 w/ 6.2L 4WD
Ford F-250 w/ 7.3L 4WD

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I think the 7.3 gasser Ford would be about right


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I tow a boat a little lighter than that regularly. Previously, I had a 2003 F250 and loved it, but "stuff" just started wearing out. I can't be a no-show, so I went with the 4x4 Tundra two years ago. It is my second Tundra, the first was a 2011. Milage sucks, but other than that they are great.

I probably would have gone with another diesel, but couldn't see spending $20 more to tow 3 tons.


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The Tundra will get about 14-16mpg (maybe 17, on a good day, going downhill). Ford’s will probably do 12-14. The 7.3 sounds good on paper. May be a few years before we know whether they got it right, or whether it needs “improvements”.

I wouldn’t say the Tundra is “perfect” for what you’re doing, but the 5.7 is a known commodity, and will get better mileage than your other choices, in day to day driving.

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6.2 comes stock in the Super Duty. I own a 2019 F250 CC 4WD short bed with the 6.2 and 4:30 gears. Tows like a dream and is rated to carry about 3500 pounds. I average 12 mpg towing a boat that weighs 5K. The 6.2 is as bullet proof as they come.
My ex 2013 Tundra CC 5.7 4WD towed the same boat and got 11 mpg and the azz sagged like a old ladies boobs.

The 7.3 should do an even better job. But its new on the market and some people are complaining about the 10 speed. Add in its an extra cost option at roughly $2,000.


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Been running the 7.3 gasser for 12 months and 14k miles. You will not be disappointed.

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Ford also sold out their soul for free money as well. Unopposed bid for government vehicles and they received 6 billion dollars in government money as well, which will they will finish paying back the US in 2022. And don't forget that Ford want to reintroduce the cash-for-clunkers program and took money for payroll protection over the past year due to covid.

Ford wants the cash for clunker back

Your best bet, buy the Chevy 2500HD with the 6.2 and the 10 speed

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Any of the diesel trucks on the market, would work well! The new ford sounds good, but time will tell he real story.

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Originally Posted by MarkinGA
Hey guys, I am currently running a 2WD 2012 Toyota Tundra w/ the 5.7L V-8. I am considering upgrading my truck to a newer model and I plan to get 4WD this time. I fairly regularly tow my 20 ft equipment-style tandem axle trailer and 32 hp tractor w/ attachments. My Tundra does pretty decent pulling this load and its well within its rated capacity. Still if I end up getting something else, I’m considering a newer Tundra (which mechanically is the same as what I have) and also wondering whether I should consider a 3/4 ton. I don’t really think I need a diesel, so would likely get a gasser 3/4 if I went that way. I’m kind of afraid of all the hyped up Turbo V6 stuff out there and I want something reliable. My Tundra has been nigh on bulletproof for example.

Top contenders are the following:

2019 or newer Toyota Tundra w/ 5.7L 4WD
Ford F-250 w/ 6.2L 4WD
Ford F-250 w/ 7.3L 4WD

Don’t care for Ram, and feel like GM sold their soul under Obama.

Thoughts, Advice?

Mark in GA

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Whatever you get, get a 3/4 ton. It isn’t about the power so much as the stopping ability and trailer control.

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Originally Posted by K1500
Whatever you get, get a 3/4 ton. It isn’t about the power so much as the stopping ability and trailer control.


I don't agree that you need a 3/4 ton to tow 8,000 lbs., but I do agree that you need something with heavy-duty brakes, otherwise they wear too fast.

Edited to add...bigger IS better, but big enough is big enough.


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Buy a Dodge Ram 2500 with a Cummins Diesel and you will wonder what took you so long.

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Originally Posted by ltppowell
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Whatever you get, get a 3/4 ton. It isn’t about the power so much as the stopping ability and trailer control.


I don't agree that you need a 3/4 ton to tow 8,000 lbs., but I do agree that you need something with heavy-duty brakes, otherwise they wear too fast.



A diesel with an exhaust brake is the shizzle....


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With my Dodge Ram 2500 with a Cummins Diesel I tow a 36 ft 5th wheel, at about 11,000 lbs. I have had two now, and both were fantastic.

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Given your three finalists, the 6.2 F250 is your best bet. Toyota and heavy-duty do not belong in the same sentence. They’re nothing more than a car with a box behind them and won’t last in sustained heavy duty use. They’re good grocery getters though!


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That isn't much to tow. My wife has a Dodge 1/2 that's rated to tow 13k and it does fine. My son's '15 F150 tows 7500 easy as well.

I'd go with an engine trans combo that's known for reliability. These new turbos look good on paper but time will tell. Turbo's get expensive quick, new engines with popping head bolts, bad gaskets, slipping transmissions, etc. are not what I'm interested in. My choice would be an F150 with the 5.0l first, Second a Toyota Tundra, third would be a fight. I have had to many problems with the Chevy's I've tried, the Dodge has been fine but isn't as comfy. I don't look at Nissan.

I have had (still do) an F350 SD that tows like crazy, had a Cummins before that. If you get a Dodge trade it off before it starts rattling much. Mine started coming apart in the cab. I hate sqeaky dash BS. One tons are made for towing but ride quality and fuel consumption suck.

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Originally Posted by ledvm
Buy a Dodge Ram 2500 with a Cummins Diesel and you will wonder what took you so long.


Amen!


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Originally Posted by BigNate
That isn't much to tow. My wife has a Dodge 1/2 that's rated to tow 13k and it does fine. My son's '15 F150 tows 7500 easy as well.

I'd go with an engine trans combo that's known for reliability. These new turbos look good on paper but time will tell. Turbo's get expensive quick, new engines with popping head bolts, bad gaskets, slipping transmissions, etc. are not what I'm interested in. My choice would be an F150 with the 5.0l first, Second a Toyota Tundra, third would be a fight. I have had to many problems with the Chevy's I've tried, the Dodge has been fine but isn't as comfy. I don't look at Nissan.


New turbos? Ford has had the ecoboost for 10 or 11 model years now. Plenty of history. The numbers look good cause they are.

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7000 lbs doesn't require a 3/4 ton.

If you want it, more power to you.

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
7000 lbs doesn't require a 3/4 ton.

If you want it, more power to you.



Exactly.


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