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Browning never made a gun in the sense of a production line. Fn and Miroku made most of them. Some of the Browning models have a mystique. The 1885 and B78 lines, some of the higher end bolt guns maybe, and Superposed shotguns along with the Sweet 16 A5.

Colt has a history but after the first gen SAA, the early cap and ball pistols I don't see a mystique.

Winchester has more than either one of them to me.

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Worked for or provided designs to just about every US manufacturer during his life.

But Browning received the most...


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Might take a lot of counting to decide, but Winchester made a boat load of Browning designs & it is written that Winchester bought many of his designs that they never used. Just bought them to keep competitors from getting them.

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Originally Posted by stantdm
Browning never made a gun in the sense of a production line. Fn and Miroku made most of them. Some of the Browning models have a mystique. The 1885 and B78 lines, some of the higher end bolt guns maybe, and Superposed shotguns along with the Sweet 16 A5.

Colt has a history but after the first gen SAA, the early cap and ball pistols I don't see a mystique.

Winchester has more than either one of them to me.


Are you talking about J.M himself? I have a Buckmark that isn't made by either FN or in Japan...

I don't really know where it was made, though. Don't know that the facility has a browning logo at their gate...


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Originally Posted by stantdm
Browning never made a gun in the sense of a production line. Fn and Miroku made most of them. Some of the Browning models have a mystique. The 1885 and B78 lines, some of the higher end bolt guns maybe, and Superposed shotguns along with the Sweet 16 A5.

You forgot the Safari Grade Mauser action bolt guns, The High Power auto pistol, Baby Brownings, etc.. Yes, of course, there was never a Browning factory. Browning Arms commissioned gun manufacturers to make their designs (mainly FN). Many of John Browning's early designs were made by Winchester.

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Originally Posted by stantdm
Browning never made a gun in the sense of a production line. Fn and Miroku made most of them. Some of the Browning models have a mystique. The 1885 and B78 lines, some of the higher end bolt guns maybe, and Superposed shotguns along with the Sweet 16 A5.

Colt has a history but after the first gen SAA, the early cap and ball pistols I don't see a mystique.

Winchester has more than either one of them to me.


Are you talking about J.M himself? I have a Buckmark that isn't made by either FN or in Japan...

I don't really know where it was made, though. Don't know that the facility has a browning logo at their gate...


Likely made by Arms Technology inc in Salt Lake City.



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The Colt Walker revolver changed the outcome of the Indian wars in general and the Comanches in particular.


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Might as well throw Winchester in there, considering the number of JMB designs that bear the name.

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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
The Colt Walker revolver changed the outcome of the Indian wars in general and the Comanches in particular.

It was a gigantic force multiplier for mounted cavalry. They'd have three or four fully loaded Walkers or Dragoons on their saddles, and just wade into the Indians at full gallop, mowing them down as they passed.

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The Colt 1911 was a John browning design that is still used today over 100 years later.

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The Colt 1911 was a John browning design that is still used today over 100 years later.

Yep. He was amazingly prolific.

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If I recall correctly, the Ithaca 37 was his final design.


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Originally Posted by OSU_Sig
If I recall correctly, the Ithaca 37 was his final design.

Yes. I think it was originally sold to a different company that didn't do much with it, and then Ithaca bought the design rights.

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The Ithaca 37 was a Remington 17 that Browning designed in '15. Remington moved on to the 31 & Ithaca grabbed the 17 design.

JMB died in '26 while working on the Hi-Power design. Another designer who's name escapes me finished the Hi-Power.

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Sorry Hawk, I should have been more clear.

Is there any mystique to Cold like there is to Browning?

I'll make a wild guess, some colt handguns?




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I bought a Browning Challenger 6" bbl. .22 LR new in 1968, made in Belgium. I also bought a new Browning 4" bbl. for it, (Carries a little handier out in the field in a Bianchi holster.) plus two extra Browning factory magazines. Still have the box and papers. It is a tack driver. Never had one bit of problem with it. Browning, Colt, S&W, Ruger ... I like 'em all. grin

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Originally Posted by gunzo
The Ithaca 37 was a Remington 17 that Browning designed in '15. Remington moved on to the 31 & Ithaca grabbed the 17 design.

JMB died in '26 while working on the Hi-Power design. Another designer who's name escapes me finished the Hi-Power.


Wasn't it John's son?


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Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
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The Ithaca 37 was a Remington 17 that Browning designed in '15. Remington moved on to the 31 & Ithaca grabbed the 17 design.

JMB died in '26 while working on the Hi-Power design. Another designer who's name escapes me finished the Hi-Power.


Wasn't it John's son?


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
Sorry Hawk, I should have been more clear.

Is there any mystique to Cold like there is to Browning?

I'll make a wild guess, some colt handguns?
I would say there's more "mystique" to a lot of makers, including the aforementioned Winchester and Colt names, as well as Smith and Wesson, than there is to Browning. Browning is mol a "modern" gun brand as opposed to the others. The brand has a reputation for quality firearms. Kimber has the same rep. Not much "mystique" to it.

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