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For you all that shoot CFE 223 do you find it to work best with light, medium or heavier weight bullets in the 223?

I picked up most of 2# from a guy selling out of 223 loading components last night and thought I might give it a whirl.

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Surprisingly CFE223 is almost too slow of a burn rate for a 223...........it is at its best with the heavies from 69gr up and is almost useless with a 40grainer

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I get GREAT speeds out of basic 55 grainers....its my "go to" powder in the .223 and .223AI, and .222 when I want to max the speed.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I get GREAT speeds out of basic 55 grainers....its my "go to" powder in the .223 and .223AI, and .222 when I want to max the speed.


WOW ingwe, I read and agree with most of your posts........but......".222 when I want to max the speed" confused

Don't know rather to call for a drug test, a piss quiz or Psychiatric evaluation but CFE223 was the worst powder ever in my triple deuce.........
news me on how it worked for you and how it is better than N130 ???????????

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CFE223 works great for me with 62 grain fmj. Ran out of it so switched to PP Varmint.

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Originally Posted by boatanchor
Originally Posted by ingwe
I get GREAT speeds out of basic 55 grainers....its my "go to" powder in the .223 and .223AI, and .222 when I want to max the speed.


WOW ingwe, I read and agree with most of your posts........but......".222 when I want to max the speed" confused

Don't know rather to call for a drug test, a piss quiz or Psychiatric evaluation but CFE223 was the worst powder ever in my triple deuce.........
news me on how it worked for you and how it is better than N130 ???????????



Point of fact only ONE of my .222s liked it...it flat sucked in the other one......does that help?


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It's the powder in my favorite .223 load, 28.0gr. with 40 grain Bergers. Velocity of 3600fps out of the 26" barrel of the Browning Low Wall, boringly reliable sub-1/2MOA accuracy. (It's an older rifle with 1-12" twist that definitely likes light bullets.)


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Hell it doesn't matter now.

A bud wanted it more than I and I wanted his 22 mag ammo more than he.

One less powder to mess with.


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We shoot thousands of the Hornady 55 gr BTSP out of 223s for prairie dogs. It's not the fastest but burns cleans and just about eliminates copper fouling.


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It's a real winner with 77 grainers at 5.56 pressures:

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Cartridge          : 5.56 mm NATO - 5.56 x 45 mm
Bullet             : .224, 77, Nosler CC HPBT 22421
Useable Case Capaci: 23.990 grain H2O = 1.558 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.260 inch = 57.40 mm
Barrel Length      : 18.0 inch = 457.2 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 61000 psi, or 420 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

36 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 70%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
IMR 3031                           109.0     22.5     1.46    2775   100.0    61000    9502   0.903  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon CFE223 *C                  107.7     26.0     1.68    2761    95.0    61000   10308   0.898  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4895                           107.6     23.8     1.54    2760    96.8    61000   10191   0.909  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 748                     100.0     23.8     1.54    2760    98.7    61000    9833   0.902  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Big Game                   107.8     25.4     1.65    2757    96.3    61000   10098   0.900  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon BL-C2                      102.5     24.7     1.60    2753    97.9    61000   10042   0.909  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203B *C                      108.9     24.1     1.56    2747    96.7    61000   10050   0.911  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2495                      105.3     22.8     1.48    2747   100.0    61000    9368   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant AR-Comp *C *T              103.8     22.2     1.44    2744   100.0    61000    8747   0.904  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-15 *C              108.3     24.0     1.55    2744    96.1    61000   10048   0.911  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.6                       105.4     24.0     1.56    2741    99.2    61000    9626   0.918  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Match Rifle         105.4     24.0     1.56    2741    99.2    61000    9626   0.918  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2520                      103.0     24.0     1.56    2741    99.2    61000    9626   0.918  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895                      104.4     23.1     1.50    2736    97.3    61000    9873   0.913  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Wild Boar                  102.5     24.2     1.57    2729    96.6    61000    9834   0.908  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H                       104.6     23.1     1.50    2728    96.7    61000    9838   0.913  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old                      110.0     24.6     1.59    2727    97.4    59192    9974   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4320                           109.8     23.9     1.55    2721    96.3    61000    9653   0.899  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H335                        95.0     22.9     1.49    2720    99.6    61000    9367   0.910  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 202 *C                       105.4     22.9     1.49    2719    99.6    61000    9365   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H322                       100.7     21.6     1.40    2719    99.9    61000    9130   0.907  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2219                         94.7     21.6     1.40    2719    99.9    61000    9130   0.907  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H380                       109.3     24.7     1.60    2718    94.3    61000    9909   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N540 *C                 107.6     24.1     1.56    2716    99.5    61000    9464   0.913  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Precision           109.4     23.5     1.52    2715    98.0    61000    9571   0.919  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S062                         109.4     23.5     1.52    2715    98.0    61000    9571   0.919  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N530 *C                 100.4     22.3     1.45    2712    98.0    61000    9503   0.911  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 4064                      110.0     23.8     1.54    2712    99.6    57897    9667   0.955  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 8208 XBR                       102.6     22.7     1.47    2703    97.9    61000    9399   0.912  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 201 *C                       105.8     22.9     1.48    2702    98.0    61000    9495   0.925  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-17 *T              110.0     25.5     1.65    2698    95.0    53898   10548   0.942  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.5                        98.4     23.3     1.51    2698    98.7    61000    9294   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2460                       98.1     23.3     1.51    2698    98.7    61000    9294   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2208                        109.9     23.6     1.53    2697    95.7    61000    9539   0.907  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon VARGET *T                  110.0     23.5     1.52    2690    95.6    60544    9518   0.911  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-10x *C              98.2     20.5     1.33    2687   100.0    61000    8575   0.923  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-12                 100.2     22.6     1.46    2685    99.9    61000    8864   0.913  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex D073.4                        96.5     22.9     1.48    2685    98.6    61000    9129   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World AR Plus              96.5     22.9     1.48    2685    98.6    61000    9129   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2230                       97.4     23.3     1.51    2681    97.3    61000    9206   0.922  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot TAC *C                     101.6     24.2     1.57    2680    93.5    61000    9535   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot X-Terminator *C             99.2     23.4     1.52    2676    96.5    61000    9293   0.917  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2015                      100.9     21.4     1.38    2674   100.0    61000    8504   0.928  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 2200                      101.5     22.8     1.48    2674    94.7    61000    9325   0.913  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2210                         95.2     21.7     1.41    2673    98.6    61000    9028   0.916  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H414                       110.0     25.7     1.67    2672    89.4    55684   10071   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
Winchester 760                     110.0     25.7     1.67    2672    89.4    55684   10071   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
Norma 200 *C                        94.3     20.4     1.32    2668   100.0    61000    8366   0.937  ! Near Maximum !
ADI BM2                             93.1     21.9     1.42    2664    98.6    61000    8946   0.916  ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Benchmark                  101.2     22.0     1.43    2664    98.4    61000    8954   0.917  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4064                           110.0     23.0     1.49    2664    95.6    58760    9335   0.926  ! Near Maximum !
Shooters World Tactical Rifle       95.6     22.5     1.46    2661    97.5    61000    8959   0.917  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4007 SSC                       110.0     24.7     1.60    2657    90.1    60822    9432   0.921  ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S060                         104.0     22.4     1.45    2656    96.7    61000    9019   0.916  ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4198                            97.3     19.3     1.25    2648   100.0    61000    7949   0.909  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206                        103.2     22.6     1.46    2648    97.1    61000    8908   0.916  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 *C                 106.9     21.6     1.40    2647   100.0    61000    8201   0.916  ! Near Maximum !
Accurate 1680                       84.8     19.6     1.27    2644   100.0    61000    8292   0.915  ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2207                         92.6     19.2     1.24    2639   100.0    61000    7873   0.924  ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N130 *C                 100.7     20.8     1.35    2636   100.0    61000    8076   0.923  ! Near Maximum !


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Works well with 62 grain Bear Claws.

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And the 62 gr. TTSX.


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