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Every deer I have laid the crosshairs on has become groceries. Most of them never moved after they were shot.
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The .257R is just right for hunting deer 0-400yds. I went from a pair of hunting rifles in 300wm and .44 mag to adding a Roberts, and lost zero effectiveness in doing so. The first couple of deer I shot with the .257 I watched the deer's reaction through the scope during the recoil and I thought "Wow that's nice". An added feature compared to the 300 wm recoil.
I've been shooting either 117 grain btsp Hornady's with 43 grn of RL19, or 115 grain Nosler bt's with 43.5 grn of RL 19 for over 15 years and I'll be happy if I never have to change it.
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I have one because my first name is Robert. That's a good enough reason right!? In all seriousness I have always liked 25 caliber anything and the roberts is a very mild but effective cartridge.
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It is a nearly ideal cartridge for youngsters getting accustomed to centerfire rifles. Actually, it is a cartridge that near everyone likes to shoot.
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257 Roberts, I think that case should be necked up to 7mm , then you would have something!!
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I'm building one now for a youngster that disparately wants one......because he has seen mine and loves it.
IMO it's the finest dual purpose round ever .....varmints and deer size game.....It just plain works!
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257 Roberts, I think that case should be necked up to 7mm , then you would have something!! LOL! I see what you did....
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Whats not to like? Mine shoots great and handles heavier bullets than my 243. You could say it puts the 243 in the coyote rifle slot and takes over the deer hunting slot. However the last deer I shot with it acted just like the last one I shot with a 243, good hit and ran 100 yards.
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There's nothing magical about the 257Roberts.
I like mine a lot. It kills as well as any other similar chambering, but offers a lot of deer camp cool over the newer similars and the low recoil makes it a lot of fun to shoot.
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Whats not to like? Mine shoots great and handles heavier bullets than my 243. You could say it puts the 243 in the coyote rifle slot and takes over the deer hunting slot. However the last deer I shot with it acted just like the last one I shot with a 243, good hit and ran 100 yards. Don't draw too strong of a conclusion from that. I put a 150 grain Ballistic Tip out of a 308 through a buck's chest and he ran that far. He just didn't immediately recognize his heart and lungs had a bit of a problem.
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Have seen the same thing happen with even larger cartridges. First animal I ever shot with a .300 Winchester Magnum was a mule deer doe that went 100 yards--after receiving a 200-grain Nosler Partition in the middle of the left ribs that exited in front of the right shoulder. Range was right around 100 yards.
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I know but it seems to happen more often to me with the smaller rounds. Had the same thing happen with other bigger cartridges, just amazing what an animal can do with nothing inside it's chest.
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My father put an early generation 130 grain Ballistic Tip broadside through a buck's chest. I forget the velocity, but it was a full throttle load from a 26" barreled 270 Winchester. Range was about 100 yards IIRC. The exit wound would pass a grapefruit and there was a swath of chum on the ground yet he ran a good distance in a U shaped path.
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A friend of mine was in on some deer removal permits a while back. His rifle of choice was a 22-250 shooting 50 grain Ballistic Tips if memory serves. He'd chest pop them just behind the leg and he told me they pretty much just dropped immediately and leg twitched a bit.
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My father put an early generation 130 grain Ballistic Tip broadside through a buck's chest. I forget the velocity, but it was a full throttle load from a 26" barreled 270 Winchester. Range was about 100 yards IIRC. The exit wound would pass a grapefruit and there was a swath of chum on the ground yet he ran a good distance in a U shaped path. Those early NBT's were like that, including 150's in the .308 and '06. They were so bad, we agreed to not use them at our deer camp. So, I wrote them off, moved on. I later learned that Nosler had toughened them up. I'm using them again and like what I see. They always were very accurate. Like I posted earlier, the 115 gr. NBT is one of the most accurate bullets in my .257R, and the terminal performance is impressive. The 120 gr. NBT out of my 7-08 is both accurate and deadly with good exits and lots of internal damage. DF
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You didn't mention just what you use a rifle for. Short of regular use on big bears, elk, or moose there is little reason to use anything in .30 caliber, such as the old war-hammer .308.
Maybe start with describing your attraction to it. Then ask yourself what you can do with the .308 that you can't do with a .24, .25, or .26?
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You didn't mention just what you use a rifle for. Short of regular use on big bears, elk, or moose there is little reason to use anything in .30 caliber, such as the old war-hammer .308.
Maybe start with describing your attraction to it. Then ask yourself what you can do with the .308 that you can't do with a .24, .25, or .26? ....or a B-29.
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I can not see a reason to own one. I'd go 25-06
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I can not see a reason to own one. I'd go 25-06 Look there is no room for logic in this discussion!
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I can not see a reason to own one. I'd go 25-06 I always wanted a .257 But having a standard action when I had my .25 built, I choked and chose the 25-06. I had the room under the hood. why go with a lesser motor? Pure guess here, but I'd bet I own more .308s than the OP. Still... My do-all rifle is and has been the 25-06 since it was built. Leave me it, and my H&R/Sako .222 and I'm happy to the end of my days. Can't imagine much I wouldn't do with a 25-06 and the 100 ballistic tip...
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