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I had a close call Over on Rockslide today with a member by the name Mattwi who has been a member there for over a year. He responded to my WTB Kahles scope ad with the usual "Hey buddy, you still in the market" only he was saying he had the scope. While looking into his limited previous posts they seemed normal and educated so I asked that he send photos with a piece of paper under the scope with his name and date on it to verify he had the scope. I received the photos and asked for his PayPal address, which is when he informed me that he doesn't use PayPal due to their anti gun stance. This sent enough of a red flag that I felt I needed to investigate further. After an online search I came up with an older classified from 24Campfire where the photos were stolen from and altered using photo shop. Attached is one of the photos from the original ad along with the altered photo with his info. Be careful, only use a payment method that offers protection.

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Sneaky photoshop right there...

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Good to know, thanks.


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Wow! I guess my days of selling on line may be nearly over. I don’t do PayPal and this on line stuff is getting complicated and scary!


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Damn that's a pretty good photoshop. Give him some credit for the effort


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Nice work right there.


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Wow, that was a good tactic on your part asking for the signature, but that was a good attempt to scam you. Hate to admit it but I totally would have fell for it! Now I'm going to really critique pictures!


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That photoshop is so good you should send him a few bucks

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I'm having a weird issue on gunbroker as well. I bought a rifle little over 2 weeks ago from a guy with a bunch of feedback. Sent money order. Haven't heard a thing. Sent messages emails and called. No reply. Searched his name on my email to make sure I hadn't missed a message and saw where I bought a gun from him in 2013. I hope he didn't die or something.

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Wow
There is a core group of guys here that are honest. Beyond that, it’s getting scary.


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Originally Posted by predmaster223
I'm having a weird issue on gunbroker as well. I bought a rifle little over 2 weeks ago from a guy with a bunch of feedback. Sent money order. Haven't heard a thing. Sent messages emails and called. No reply. Searched his name on my email to make sure I hadn't missed a message and saw where I bought a gun from him in 2013. I hope he didn't die or something.


He have any recent feedback?


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Originally Posted by Rodney482
Nice work right there.


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Originally Posted by Rodney482
Originally Posted by predmaster223
I'm having a weird issue on gunbroker as well. I bought a rifle little over 2 weeks ago from a guy with a bunch of feedback. Sent money order. Haven't heard a thing. Sent messages emails and called. No reply. Searched his name on my email to make sure I hadn't missed a message and saw where I bought a gun from him in 2013. I hope he didn't die or something.


He have any recent feedback?

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FYI

No where near foolproof, but if you receive multiple photos of the same item (jpeg, png, pdf, etc.) and one has a substantially larger file size, then it's probably edited in some way--may not have been a malicious edit, but it's probably been edited. Again, not a foolproof method, but something to easily check for the technically challenged on here.

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He missed the grout line below the paper. Otherwise, the guy could probably make a honest living altering photos for dating websites.

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Originally Posted by Couesdeer
He missed the grout line below the paper. Otherwise, the guy could probably make a honest living altering photos for dating websites.


I picked up on the missing grout line also.

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Originally Posted by Couesdeer
He missed the grout line below the paper. Otherwise, the guy could probably make a honest living altering photos for dating websites.

good catch

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I had the same kind of msg on Shotgun World.

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Originally Posted by MPat70
Wow, that was a good tactic on your part asking for the signature, but that was a good attempt to scam you. Hate to admit it but I totally would have fell for it! Now I'm going to really critique pictures!


Im not that tech savvy but there are apps where you can do reverse searches to see if photos are already used online, also not foolproof as they use photoshop to alter originals. I have sold over on ArcheryTalk for years and they updated their system and did away with feedback from previous buyers which was a great system for giving you a little faith in who you were dealing with.

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Wow. That’s crazy. Thanks for posting.

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