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Unfortunately, there is no easy answer to it all. I have a feeling as more and more platforms promote Western hunting, the arguments are going to get more bitter.
Personally, I have been pushing for a straight 85/15 split in NM, eliminating the outfitter subsidy.
Don’t bring up federal lands, that’s been argued adnausem. What about wildlife on private?
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I’ve whined enough about NM, I just took my own advice and stopped hunting there instead of whining about it. Sucks but that’s how it is right now.
Instagram hunters turn my stomach. “Yo bro I’ve gotta get footage this is my lively hood “. Makes a kill and blogs about it the rest of the year. Just go away already. Flat brimmed cock suckers.
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Couldn’t agree more.
Unfortunately, like a lot of states, the resident hunters of NM have allowed the outfitting industry to pretty much dictate allocations.
It feels like the tide might be turning though.
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I’ve whined enough about NM, I just took my own advice and stopped hunting there instead of whining about it. Sucks but that’s how it is right now.
Instagram hunters turn my stomach. “Yo bro I’ve gotta get footage this is my lively hood “. Makes a kill and blogs about it the rest of the year. Just go away already. Flat brimmed cock suckers. Yep I dropped Wyoming sheep and moose when they started cuttin moose tags, dropped Utah too. I followed Cameron hanes for I think 3 days before I unfollowed him. Used to like him as he started out as a blacktail/Roosevelt killer in country like here. Fame got the best of him. Mostly follow coues guys, canucks and the many sexy women on there now. 😂😂😂 oh and knife makers. 👍
Ping pong balls for the win.
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Man I wish Colorado would do this! Sucks living in a state that caters to non-residents! Again, Another one, LMAO! 'Cub, you've lived in how many different states? And so now at this present time, you "qualify" has a Colorado resident. And look at you perched on your stump decrying others who may travel to hunt, Because you're a "resident" for 12 months... Can't make this stuff up. I live in the [bleep] state so yes I am a [bleep] resident, going on 4 years now. Can’t make this stuff up???? Do you [bleep] live in Colorado?
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Man I wish Colorado would do this! Sucks living in a state that caters to non-residents! And please, tell us how Colorado caters to non-residents. Let’s start with UNLIMITED Over The Counter Tags (Archery and Rifle) for non-residents! Can you name another western state that allows that? You don’t see me bitching because I can’t hunt in Wyoming, Utah,Montana or any other state I don’t [bleep] live in!
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First, I laugh at the people who jump from state to state and then declare themselves, Residents with all the Privileges,
Suddenly it's "their" Wildlife....uh-huh.
And that Wildlife is on Public, Federal lands...
And I laugh when people think hunting has only changed in their state, but not mine or yours.
Same ole crap, Residents vs Non. . Dumbasss when you move your family to another state, buy property, and pay taxes that’s called residency!
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Colorado needs a better cap for premium tags like goat, moose, and sheep. Its damn near impossible to draw those tags even if you live here...
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Man I wish Colorado would do this! Sucks living in a state that caters to non-residents! And please, tell us how Colorado caters to non-residents. Let’s start with UNLIMITED Over The Counter Tags for non-residents! Can you name another western state that allows that? You don’t see me bitching because I can’t hunt in Wyoming, Utah,Montana or any other state I don’t [bleep] live in! Not to interject 😂😂, Washington is wide open, no quotas on tags, or oil tags.
Ping pong balls for the win.
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Not to interject 😂😂, Washington is wide open, no quotas on tags, or oil tags.
Good to know! 👍🏻
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Not bad if a guy wants to apply for a goat, sheep or moose. Otc tags for Roosevelt bulls and blacktail bucks.
Ping pong balls for the win.
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Blacktail is definitely on my “some day” list. Roosevelt too, but I much prefer deer hunting overall.
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Man I wish Colorado would do this! Sucks living in a state that caters to non-residents! And please, tell us how Colorado caters to non-residents. Let’s start with UNLIMITED Over The Counter Tags (Archery and Rifle) for non-residents! ! That's not catering to NR, How are you being denied anything? And all of Co is not unlimited, nor OTC. Your statement of CO catering to NR was idiotic.
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Your statement of CO catering to NR was idiotic.
Your right, Colorado isn’t the fall back plan for every elk hunter in the country that doesn’t draw in a state that doesn’t offer UNLIMITED OTC elk tags. Jesus.....
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Blacktail is definitely on my “some day” list. Roosevelt too, but I much prefer deer hunting overall. Yep, bucks, any species is where it’s at for me. 👍 Coues and blacktail are my passion.
Ping pong balls for the win.
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Your statement of CO catering to NR was idiotic.
Your right, Colorado isn’t the fall back plan for every elk hunter in the country that doesn’t draw in a state that doesn’t offer UNLIMITED OTC elk tags. Jesus..... Again, not true. Never in my life have I went to CO for Elk because my plans for a different state didn't pan out, I also do not know of any other person who has went to CO because his plans for a different state didn't pan out. What you're trying to imply is a very, very, small amount of hunters that may make last minute changes. Last time, that is not catering to NR.
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As a DIY hunter I’ll side w/resident DIY hunters even if it means I don’t get to go as often.
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Your statement of CO catering to NR was idiotic.
Your right, Colorado isn’t the fall back plan for every elk hunter in the country that doesn’t draw in a state that doesn’t offer UNLIMITED OTC elk tags. Jesus..... Got any more dumbass statements that you’d like to walk back? Laffin’ Hint
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I have a serious question for the resident hunters that want to see non resident numbers drop or have them pay an astronomical price that will keep people like me from making the trip anymore. Non resident fees make up a large percentage of revenue for your F&G departments, so would you be willing to have your tag fees increased by $150-200 to offset the lost revenue? Would you want your fees to stay the same and have services reduced? I am just trying to get a handle on the different perspectives, as I live in a state where non residents flock to to deer hunt, and here many of the same opinions expressed here by locals.
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Your statement of CO catering to NR was idiotic.
Your right, Colorado isn’t the fall back plan for every elk hunter in the country that doesn’t draw in a state that doesn’t offer UNLIMITED OTC elk tags. Jesus..... Again, not true. Never in my life have I went to CO for Elk because my plans for a different state didn't pan out, I also do not know of any other person who has went to CO because his plans for a different state didn't pan out. What you're trying to imply is a very, very, small amount of hunters that may make last minute changes. Last time, that is not catering to NR. Me and about 10-11 of my hunting buddies........... How do you propose to introduce a new guy to elk hunting who has zero points? Tell him he needs to wait a couple years?
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