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One of the best deer hunters I've known carried a Savage that had a .222 over a 20 gauge with a scope. He hunted in Virginia back when about everything was in season all at once. He carried 4 shot for turkeys, 20gauge slugs for bear and deer, and the heaviest bullet he could find on the shelf in .222 for deer. He even carried some smaller bird shot for squirrels in case they wanted some easy meat for deer camp. He got a nice deer nearly every year, and a few bear.

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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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An easy correct answer is the 60g Nosler Partition. Just don't think it is a long-range load or anything.


It might be easy, but an incorrect answer..........the 60g Nosler Partition will keyhole at 100yds with the factory 1-14"twist


Yep. I have not been able to get it stable in a 1-14" twist even at .22-250 and .220 Swift speeds.

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Originally Posted by buttstock
My wife's co-worker shot 20 white tails in about 25 years , all with one shot/each ( allowed 1 deer per year in Maine) with a Savage 340 bolt in 222 Rem, with a 60 year old steel-tubed Weaver El Paso-era K4 with standard crosshair. Factory ammo was used ( not sure if it was 50 or 55 grain ammo). She shot from a tree stand on her father's Albion, Maine dairy farm at distances less than 50 yards. She was a patient hunter ( passed on many deer) and decent shot (not great). She aimed for the base of the head/neck area. Never missed.

After she got re-married (after the 20 deer streak with her 222 Rem), her husband told her she was doing it ( deer hunting with a light rifle) "all wrong", and bought her a 308 Win bolt rifle. Now she is successful. She now gets one deer with one shot. :-)

The biggest problem with most 222 Rem rifles are their 1-14" twist barrels, which limits use of heavier bullets. If you have a 222 Rem 1-14" barrel, try the Speer .224" 70 grain round nose flat base. That may be stable in a 1-14" twist barrel at 222 Rem max velocities.

Setting your maximum range will be very important. 150 yards may be pushing it.

My wife's co-worker would still get her deer if all she had was a 22 Hornet with a single factory 45 grain cartridge with an ear shot at 50 yards, so go figure.


I've been experimenting with this bullet in my Valmet 12/222 combo gun. I don't know the twist. I'll calculate it sometime soon.

But, these 64gr Nosler Bondeds have shot ok and no fliers or keyholes yet.

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Thanks fellas! I’ve got a stack of the 55gr Horns and never fired them at anything but Coyotes. Thankfully they do stabilize in my rifle (M700 .222 B-prefix) just didn’t know that they stood out among many other 55gr options as a viable deer load. Glad I asked. Digging out the H322 & 4198 (& 4064 cuz I think it might work too) this weekend to get things going.

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I used 65gr Sierra's on a couple of deer. They worked fine. Ran out of those bullets and now have a 55gr GMX load at 3000fps that I would not hesitate to use. The barrel is 1:9 twist.

Have filled the freezer with truckloads of deer using a 53gr TSX out of 1:14 22-250.


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The first deer I killed with a.222 was over 50 years ago. It was drt at 200 yards with a 50 grain Norma factory load. Today, I use 65 grain SGK’s in my fast-twist.223’s. If I were to go with a .222 again I’d first try the 55 grain SGK.


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24 Caliber is, & has always been the min. Caliber for Deer in Virginia !!!!!


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My boys and I have shot over 3 dozen deer with our old 788 222. Most of those with 55 grain Sierra gk. It works incredibly well. Ranges from 30 to 200 yds. Actually, I shot a mule deer buck at just over 400 yds with it years ago but that's another story. Those bullets at around 3000fps really perform well.

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Originally Posted by boatanchor
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An easy correct answer is the 60g Nosler Partition. Just don't think it is a long-range load or anything.


It might be easy, but an incorrect answer..........the 60g Nosler Partition will keyhole at 100yds with the factory 1-14"twist


Yep, the 60-grain Partition was designed for a 1-12 twist, back when almost all commercial .223s had 1-12 barrels.

It will, however, shoot in just about any .22 centerfire that has a 1-12 twist. For a while I had a .22 Hornet T/C Contender carbine barrel that, for some reason, had a 1-12 twist. It shot 60-grain Partitions into an inch at 100 yards, if I recall correctly at a muzzle velocity around 2400 fps. One worked well on a whitetail doe.


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Originally Posted by atse
My boys and I have shot over 3 dozen deer with our old 788 222. Most of those with 55 grain Sierra gk. It works incredibly well. Ranges from 30 to 200 yds. Actually, I shot a mule deer buck at just over 400 yds with it years ago but that's another story. Those bullets at around 3000fps really perform well.

Better than most would think.

Work good from 223s and 22-250s as well.

Don't remember if we tried them in a Swift or not.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
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My boys and I have shot over 3 dozen deer with our old 788 222. Most of those with 55 grain Sierra gk. It works incredibly well. Ranges from 30 to 200 yds. Actually, I shot a mule deer buck at just over 400 yds with it years ago but that's another story. Those bullets at around 3000fps really perform well.

Better than most would think.

Work good from 223s and 22-250s as well.

Don't remember if we tried them in a Swift or not.

I have been shooting these 55 grain gk in my A.R. as well. It is stock, and I am not a huge AR shooter, but it shoots a consistent 3/4" to 1" 5 shot group. My boy shot a couple of deer with it, but in fairness he hid in a ditch, and shot em both in the head at about 20 yds. But it is indeed an accurate bullet for all 22 caliber rifles. Glad I got a good stash of em, they are a little hard to come by right now.

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Another vote for the 60 grain Partition. Work great in my .223 and I'll bet it would work in a 222 Rem too although I don't own a 222.

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Originally Posted by stevevan1
Another vote for the 60 grain Partition. Work great in my .223 and I'll bet it would work in a 222 Rem too although I don't own a 222.


Did you read the comments about potential problems with not enough twist in the 222?

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I read once that the semi pt 63 grain Sierra would work in the 1 in
14 twist of the 222. Seems like I tried some in my 788 and they were marginal to say the least. Not sure but I think the 50 gr bullet is used in most factory loads, don't recall seeing any heavier. Mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
I read once that the semi pt 63 grain Sierra would work in the 1 in
14 twist of the 222. Seems like I tried some in my 788 and they were marginal to say the least. Not sure but I think the 50 gr bullet is used in most factory loads, don't recall seeing any heavier. Mb


I think you’re right - the 50’s are great and most heavier, to include some 55’s are velocity/length dependent. I have a pile of the 55gr Horn SP with a cannelure that I was happy to learn, that for many, it stabilized. I’d cast the rifle as a medium varminter since the late 80’s and I’m happy to learn that I’m wrong and need to reconsider it’s potential.

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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
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I read once that the semi pt 63 grain Sierra would work in the 1 in
14 twist of the 222. Seems like I tried some in my 788 and they were marginal to say the least. Not sure but I think the 50 gr bullet is used in most factory loads, don't recall seeing any heavier. Mb


I think you’re right - the 50’s are great and most heavier, to include some 55’s are velocity/length dependent. I have a pile of the 55gr Horn SP with a cannelure that I was happy to learn, that for many, it stabilized. I’d cast the rifle as a medium varminter since the late 80’s and I’m happy to learn that I’m wrong and need to reconsider it’s potential.


I’ve never seen a.222 factory load over 50 grains either, but the 63 grain Sierra semi-pointed always shot well in my old 788 back before I knew any better.


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Originally Posted by burrinho
An easy correct answer is the 60g Nosler Partition. Just don't think it is a long-range load or anything.



They wont stabilze


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Originally Posted by reivertom
One of the best deer hunters I've known carried a Savage that had a .222 over a 20 gauge with a scope. He hunted in Virginia back when about everything was in season all at once. He carried 4 shot for turkeys, 20gauge slugs for bear and deer, and the heaviest bullet he could find on the shelf in .222 for deer. He even carried some smaller bird shot for squirrels in case they wanted some easy meat for deer camp. He got a nice deer nearly every year, and a few bear.

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One of the best deer hunters I've known carried a Savage that had a .222 over a 20 gauge with a scope. He hunted in Virginia back when about everything was in season all at once. He carried 4 shot for turkeys, 20gauge slugs for bear and deer, and the heaviest bullet he could find on the shelf in .222 for deer. He even carried some smaller bird shot for squirrels in case they wanted some easy meat for deer camp. He got a nice deer nearly every year, and a few bear.

That is what my grandpa used to do.

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Originally Posted by oldwoody2
24 Caliber is, & has always been the min. Caliber for Deer in Virginia !!!!!


it might have been, but back in those many Hollers, folks didn't always abide by what was legal and what ain't...

I've got generations of grandparents, uncles, great uncles, cousins .. who are from North, West and South of Roanoke, that shot and still shoot deer
on their property, whether is season or not... they never seem to tag and report all the deer that got shot...

and they process them right there at home anyway....

Not condoning it... just know a lot of it goes on....always has and probably always will....

my grand dad, ( 1907 to 1968 ) never bought a hunting tag in his life...and pretty much lived off of venison, Rabbit and Squirrel...

he was from Wytheville, but his adult years were spent in Raleigh and Monroe County WVa....


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Originally Posted by oldwoody2
24 Caliber is, & has always been the min. Caliber for Deer in Virginia !!!!!



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