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Originally Posted by 65BR
40s over Lil Gun ended up my go to........50-52 if you want to pop a deer, but the 40 BT might do if thru lungs or neck.....again, IF you want to take a deer. The 40s will do in about any critter Coyote and down.

IIRC, that Lil Gun runs 40s about 3600, maybe more. Flies flat

Never knew that, hmmm. I woulda thunk 0ne of the 4198's.....


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Thinking about building one of these critters.



Ive got another one in the works. Waiting on a 9 twist barrel to arrive, and planning on wrapping it around 55 grainers for a variety of game.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Thinking about building one of these critters.



Ive got another one in the works. Waiting on a 9 twist barrel to arrive, and planning on wrapping it around 55 grainers for a variety of game.

Stock, barrel length and contour?

I can't decide between trying to build a 700 with a 24" varmint contour barrel on an old BDL VS stock with scrolling or something like a 21" barreled synthetic Mountain Rifle.

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Originally Posted by HankinNorthDakota
...a 50 grain Speer TNT over H322 has always worked for me, enough powder to get @ 3200 fps and rock on.


Like your way of thinkin Hank.....

I don't shoot a 222, but you certainly can create the same thing by loading a 223 using 222 load data....

I do a fair amount of that, and also down to 221 Velocities using its load data...

I burn a lot of H 322 annually and usually buy 2 or 3 of the thousand round boxes of 50 grain TNT's each year...

That little pill performs real well, and even better with H 322....


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
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Thinking about building one of these critters.



Ive got another one in the works. Waiting on a 9 twist barrel to arrive, and planning on wrapping it around 55 grainers for a variety of game.

Stock, barrel length and contour?

I can't decide between trying to build a 700 with a 24" varmint contour barrel on an old BDL VS stock with scrolling or something like a 21" barreled synthetic Mountain Rifle.


The stock is a B&C Mountain Rifle stock, I may have to open the barrel channel a tad. Action is 700, barrel is Rem Sporter Contour, 22 inches. 9 twist

Pretty plain vanilla stuff, but my current .222 is almost exactly the same configuration. I absolutely love it but it is a 14 twist which is limiting it somewhat.

It has a mag contour fluted barrel...same Mtn. rifle stock



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Ever tried a 55 grain boattail soft point in it to see if it would stabilize?


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Ever tried a 55 grain boattail soft point in it to see if it would stabilize?


No, but a flat base 55 gr. Hornady will...just barely, but it shoots good.. Tried some NBTs 55 gr and up...no dice, they are kind of a boat tail.. Shot like crazy out of my 9 twist Ruger #1 though!

My current 14 twist gun is used primarily for daytime colony varmints and some night predator hunting with 50 grainers. I want the flexibility of being able to shoot predators at night and larger game, primarily pigs at all times.

What we run into here ( in Montana) we are shooting at what many would consider high altitude, and some of the bullets that are considered Marginally stable work well. When I go down to Texas-which I do frequently- at lower elevations, they are no longer stable.

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Sounds like I would want a 12 twist at minimum and the 9 would probably be most useful.

I would mainly be using a 40 grain polymer tip of some flavor for maximum mist factor but don't want to paint myself in a corner if I want to go with a 55 grain bullet.

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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Sounds like I would want a 12 twist at minimum and the 9 would probably be most useful.

I would mainly be using a 40 grain polymer tip of some flavor for maximum mist factor but don't want to paint myself in a corner if I want to go with a 55 grain bullet.


Yeah 9 or 12 would do it, 9 for surplus it gives the little 40 grainers a few more RPMs which increase the splatter factor!


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Sounds like I would want a 12 twist at minimum and the 9 would probably be most useful.

I would mainly be using a 40 grain polymer tip of some flavor for maximum mist factor but don't want to paint myself in a corner if I want to go with a 55 grain bullet.


Yeah 9 or 12 would do it, 9 for surplus it gives the little 40 grainers a few more RPMs which increase the splatter factor!


Blasphemy !!!!!!!!!!!!! screw around with the twist on a 223 all you want leave the 222 alone with a 1-14" twist so it puts 50-52gr bullets all through the same hole grin

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Originally Posted by boatanchor


Blasphemy !!!!!!!!!!!!! screw around with the twist on a 223 all you want leave the 222 alone with a 1-14" twist so it puts 50-52gr bullets all through the same hole grin




Scroll up to my earlier posts..Im keep the 14 twist in the stable...couldnt live without it!


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I shoot 40g hollow points and RL7 in both of my 222’s.

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For years, all I shot were bulk Remington 50 gr. PSPs. When I had extra money, 50 gr. Speers. With 4198, both shot an inch or better at 100 yd. I was quite pleased. For years I have used 40 gr. VMaxes

That was using a Rem 788 and a 4 power or 3x9 scope. These days, I use a 2-7 Burris. The rifle wasn't magical, like the 788 storytellers would have you believe.

I still have that rifle - it was a gift from my wife - and two others.

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The Hornady 50gr SX & about any of the 52gr HP match bullets worked well in mine over a number of powders. H4198 was, on average, the best.


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40 Grain Nosler varmageddon
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Putting the cart ahead of the horse.

Found 480 pieces of old blue bag Winchester brass.

Think he has some 4198 as well. May stick w RL-7 if I ever get something put together.

Leaning towards a SS Model 7 action for a build.


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IMO the 222 is The best centerfire 22 ever made.
I have several & the wife’s favorite as well.
Perfect balance of bore to case capacity. Very efficient and inherently accurate. Long neck good shoulder for smooth feeding. Very forgiving. I like 50 grain billets but have shot some 60 nosler partitions in mine. Shot a hog yesterday with 50 gr tsx. But no expansion. Heym combination gun.
I use several powders., 8208xbr is good, blc2 even varget.
I’m looking for a tough 50 grain bullet now. The 55 gr game king is OK but will come apart on bone. Any suggestions welcome.
I Prefer RWS brass, if you can find it.


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i have three flavors - a Higgins 52 with 1:16, a Rem 722 with 1:14 and a Cooper with 1:12. The 722 taps out at flat base 50 grain bullets. beyond that, the bullets keyhole. the higgins is relegated to 40 grain bullets, and the cooper will shoot 60 vmax well. i have no experience with 222 with faster than 1:12, but 223/556 with 1:9 and 1:8 will handle about anything within reason.

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Snooping on the net for powder recommendations and possible bullets for a 222 I may be getting into.

Ran into this.........again!!


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