24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 908
A
AGL4now Online Content OP
Campfire Regular
OP Online Content
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 908
If you could only have "ONE" powder for .45 COLT........What would you choose.....?

OK......What "one" primer.....?


ALASKA is a "HARD COUNTRY for OLDMEN". (But if you live it wide'ass open, balls'to the wall, the pedal floored, full throttle, it is a delightful place, to finally just sit-back and savor those memories while sipping Tequila).
GB1

Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,116
E
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
E
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,116
Unique.

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,834
M
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
M
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 5,834
300 grain bullet, 4227, CCI 350, heavy crimp. In a strong revolver. Not a Colt or Colt clone load.

Last edited by mart; 03/08/21.

Chronographs, bore scopes and pattern boards have broke a lot of hearts.
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23,052
G
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 23,052
Unique. But then again, like .38 Specials, I have no use for heavy jacketed bullet loads.


"You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz
"Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,190
W
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,190
It would be best to know what make and model of .45 LC revolver the "favorite powder" would be used in. A favorite powder for a large frame Ruger or Freedom Arms revolver might be a big problem in a SAA or Uberti topbreak.

Last edited by wildhobbybobby; 03/08/21.

Life is like a purple antelope on a field of tuna fish...
IC B2

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 908
A
AGL4now Online Content OP
Campfire Regular
OP Online Content
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 908
Originally Posted by wildhobbybobby
It would be best to know what make and model of .45 LC revolver the "favorite powder" would be used in. A favorite powder for a large frame Ruger or Freedom Arms revolver might be a big problem in a SAA or Uberti topbreak.


Freedom Arms chambered for .454 CASULL and Ruger Super Blackhawk also chambered for .454 CASULL and H&R "single shot" .45 COLT

The question is "If you could only have "ONE" powder, and wanted that powder to have fairly wide range of applications (Bullet weights and Bullet shapes, and construction) in .45 COLT cartridge, which powder would you choose.

Last edited by AGL4now; 03/08/21.

ALASKA is a "HARD COUNTRY for OLDMEN". (But if you live it wide'ass open, balls'to the wall, the pedal floored, full throttle, it is a delightful place, to finally just sit-back and savor those memories while sipping Tequila).
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 478
E
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
E
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 478
I havent used that many. Unique is my pick from what I have used.

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,717
C
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
C
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 5,717
Titegroup is working fine at the level I want with 250-260gr bullets.
Unique was my first choice for years and I have a couple pounds still but Titegroup gets loaded the most.


"Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them.
You will remember a curve of your wagon track in the grass of the plain like the features of a friend."
Isak Dinesen

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.


Trump Won!
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,647
I
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
I
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,647
Yup, Unique

Dick

IC B3

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,944
H
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
H
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 21,944
CFE Pistol.

Allows a level slightly above Unique, much cleaner if that matters, followed by Blue Dot. Doesnt get the gun hotter than hades like Longshot does.

Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,190
W
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 3,190
Another vote for Unique. It can be used in light plinking/"cowboy" loads, factory equivalent defense loads and heavy hunting loads.

Last edited by wildhobbybobby; 03/09/21.

Life is like a purple antelope on a field of tuna fish...
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,054
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,054
I use to own a Ruger SS NMBH convertible 45 Colt/45 ACP and if memory serves me correctly Power Pistol worked great for medium level loads providing very good accuracy.
I’m currently working with an FA 83 454. For light target loads Titegroup shows a lot of promise for fast powders. I haven’t tested medium powders yet but I plan to test Power Pistol and Longshot. For maximum performance using an FA I’d test H110 but at 454 levels I’m already getting sub half inch groups at 25 yards. If I had to pick one powder for 45 Colt, Unique covers a lot of ground.

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Originally Posted by wildhobbybobby
Another vote for Unique. It can be used in light plinking/"cowboy" loads, factory equivalent defense loads and heavy hunting loads.


My choice too. The only other powder I use for 45 Colt is WW-296 in my heavy loads for Ruger Revolvers only.


"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Originally Posted by gunner500
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.


How many grains of FFFG, Buddy?

I’ve never shot real black powder in anything besides for my .54 caliber T/C Hawken.


"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by gunner500
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.


How many grains of FFFG, Buddy?

I’ve never shot real black powder in anything besides for my .54 caliber T/C Hawken.


Load books out in the shop buddy, IIRC around 45 grains, dont think a man can get enough black in to cause pressure problems, it a fu-kin' hoot! accurate doesn't lead the bore, plus, that bullet cast with 12 to 1 alloy hit her in the forehead, exited between her tits n front of hams, didn't measure, but had to be near 2.5 feet of penetration, still trying to wrap my head around that one, pic on the way to your cell.


Trump Won!
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by gunner500
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.


How many grains of FFFG, Buddy?

I’ve never shot real black powder in anything besides for my .54 caliber T/C Hawken.


Load books out in the shop buddy, IIRC around 45 grains, dont think a man can get enough black in to cause pressure problems, it a fu-kin' hoot! accurate doesn't lead the bore, plus, that bullet cast with 12 to 1 alloy hit her in the forehead, exited between her tits n front of hams, didn't measure, but had to be near 2.5 feet of penetration, still trying to wrap my head around that one, pic on the way to your cell.


Got it Buddy! Great shot! Thanks!


"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,499
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,499
Universal fills my needs for the 45 Colt.


There is no way to coexist no matter how many bumper stickers there are on Subaru bumpers!

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by gunner500
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.


How many grains of FFFG, Buddy?

I’ve never shot real black powder in anything besides for my .54 caliber T/C Hawken.


Load books out in the shop buddy, IIRC around 45 grains, dont think a man can get enough black in to cause pressure problems, it a fu-kin' hoot! accurate doesn't lead the bore, plus, that bullet cast with 12 to 1 alloy hit her in the forehead, exited between her tits n front of hams, didn't measure, but had to be near 2.5 feet of penetration, still trying to wrap my head around that one, pic on the way to your cell.


Got it Buddy! Great shot! Thanks!


LOL, Thanks Man, it was 8 yards, that heifer kept coming towards me sitting on the ground, that was close enough, had i spooked her and she attacked, she woulda put a good ass whipping on me with those tusks till i got her shot off me. eek


Trump Won!
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 347
G
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
G
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 347
In my Ruger Bisley 250 gr XTP over 2400. for plinking 200 gr SWC over HP-38.


Greg

NRA Life Member, 1990
Life Member, NYSRPA
Life Member, Saugerties Fish and Game Club
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Second Amendment, U.S. Constitution (1791)
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,271
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,271
Unique.

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,603
N
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
N
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,603
Youneek 😊


NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,411
G
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
G
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 7,411
1907 Colt SAA. 6.0-6.5 grains of Red Dot. 250 grain cast Keith bullet.


You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 91
R
Campfire Greenhorn
Offline
Campfire Greenhorn
R
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 91
I got really good results with CFE Pistol, and that is what I would use if I could get it. Never used Unique, but Universal seems to work OK. Have been loading Tightgroop lately because I have it and it works pretty good, although 5.8 grains of it is a ridiculously small amount in that huge case.

Bob

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,802
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,802
I don't know if they are my favorites but they're what I use, Trail Boss and 700 X.

Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,008
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 9,008
No HS-6 fans?!

You all are going to break John Linebaugh's heart!


Wade

"Let's Roll!" - Todd Beamer 9/11/01.
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 168
T
Campfire Member
Online Content
Campfire Member
T
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 168
UNIQUE

Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,392
J
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
J
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,392
Originally Posted by gunner500
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.

I'm gonna have to try that - I load a lot of BP in muzzleloaders and BPCR, but never have in revolvers. I have a Vaquero 45 Colt that probably needs that treatment.

Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 355
S
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
S
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 355
Hodgdon Universal, definitely.

I used to use Unique, but tried Universal and never went back. It meters better, burns cleaner, and is almost identical.

Last edited by saddlegun; 03/30/21.

UVA UVAM VIVENDO VARIA FIT
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 355
B
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
B
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 355
I use Titegroup and Trail Boss. I plan on trying AA-9 soon for some heavy duty loads.
Both work well in my 4.5" Ruger and 92 Rossi

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
G
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
G
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 46,238
Originally Posted by JGray
Originally Posted by gunner500
FFFG Lord Black, my 45 Colt is a SAA Army, no more fun can be had with pants on than it slinging 274gr round flat nose bullets at 966 fps i cast and lubed myself, it dropped a black russian 120lb shoat like a hot potato with an 8 yard forehead shot last November, not up to snuff on full power smokeless 45 Colt loads, but dont think mine is squibbing to bad.

I'm gonna have to try that - I load a lot of BP in muzzleloaders and BPCR, but never have in revolvers. I have a Vaquero 45 Colt that probably needs that treatment.


Man it's fun JGray, just for kicks i like to go shoot at dusk, 4 feet of flame out the front and two feet out each side. grin Plus, carrying a Colt SAA on your belt with a '74 Sharps or original '86 Winchester all loaded with Lord Black is only natural.


Trump Won!
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,549
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,549
I own two 45 colts, both Ruger Bisley’s. Had a Blackhawk but it’s long gone.
For my jacket bullets (mostly 300gr.) I’ve always used h110/296. For my cast loads which consists of only two styles nowadays (A 300gr. silhouette bullet & a Keith bullet that varies between 280/285gr.) I use 2400.
I’ve used 231, titegroup, unique, hs6, never used but shot a lot of my buddies red dot loads. With all sorts of cast bullets, they all worked good. I just wanted to simplify. And I did the same for my 44mag loads too.

Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,778
A
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
A
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,778
Originally Posted by Waders
No HS-6 fans?!

You all are going to break John Linebaugh's heart!



For the moment, HS-6 is the powder of choice for my Redhawk 45 Colt. I didn't jump into the conversation because I don't yet have enough experience with the powder to be able to say it falls into the "all around powder" category. But...for what I want to do with my rig - and that's push a 255gr. SWC to moderate or a half step above moderate - so far HS-6 has beaten both Universal and Unique for me.

Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301
AA 7. Works in my 45 Blackhawk and my Henry.


The first time I shot myself in the head...

Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,271
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,271
Originally Posted by saddlegun
Hodgdon Universal, definitely.

I used to use Unique, but tried Universal and never went back. It meters better, burns cleaner, and is almost identical.


Yep. Been loading some Universal with 250gr Missouri rnfp. Been working rather well actually. Load is with 7.2-7.4gr. Damn accurate.

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 488
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 488
There is a reason for the similarity in the two names....Unique/Universal.





.

Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 355
S
Campfire Member
Offline
Campfire Member
S
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 355
Originally Posted by DoubleRadius
There is a reason for the similarity in the two names....Unique/Universal
.



Yup. No accident there.
Both powders have wide-ranging application in handgun reloading, and so both are somewhat "Universal".
And, Unique has always been the beloved old standby of reloaders.
Both powders have the same burn rate on the chart.
So, a clever marketing name choice for Hodgdon.

Maybe they could clone a fine-metering replacement for Herco and call it Hodco. grin

Last edited by saddlegun; 04/23/21.

UVA UVAM VIVENDO VARIA FIT
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,874
4
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
4
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,874
Universal

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 16,058
G
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
G
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 16,058
Unique for target loads and 296 for whiz bang loads.

Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,517
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,517
Yep! Universal or Unique.


If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.

Doug
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 69,143
Unique or Herco


"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston
Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"

~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

290 members (10gaugemag, 280shooter, 204guy, 338reddog, 1_deuce, 264mag, 43 invisible), 2,084 guests, and 1,200 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,190,492
Posts18,452,151
Members73,901
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.067s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 1.0028 MB (Peak: 1.2621 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-04-18 04:52:40 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS