Obviously neither party got what they wanted out of this transaction. I buy and sell a decent bit on here. On rifles, I advertise that the shipping includes tracking and insurance for the purchase price. But if sellers don't include that in the ad, I get it clarified in writing (either in PM or text). That said, for ammo, unless someone asks for extra insurance, I just go with default UPS amount. Granted, in this case I would refund the buyer, but I think people saying it's standard that everything bought and sold here is insured by the seller for the full purchase price are probably exaggerating a bit...
As for price gouging... while I don't agree with how the seller handled things, you can't pin that on him. The only reason he got the price in question is because the buyer sent him the money. Both parties have equal blame there. I.e., items are only worth what people will pay for them. Just because *you* won't or can't afford the price of something doesn't mean it isn't worth that to someone else. The recent wave of torpedoing FS threads and complaining about prices is pretty lame.
And finally, what is going on with the legal threats? Part of what I enjoy about buying/selling things here is that the community helps police the classified section and generally seems to weed out bad actors. But the idea that droves of lawyers are going to do anything about this particular situation is just silly. As would be tattling to Paypal. Or sending around private addresses and phone numbers. Those kinds of things will ruin the classifieds for everyone.
Let say that Taylor paid the extra 10bucks for the insurance
and this would have happen just as it has, and the USPS denied the claim saying that the packaging was not correct. not strong enough What would you do? He cant control how you packaged the bullets
Just curious I will give you this you dont cower to the crowd I think you are very wrong but I know you dont care what I think Hank
I would have immediately sent more bullets or refunded the money had he agreed to and purchased more insurance. Thats the issue i have is that both parties agreed before hand that the contents would be insured for $50. Yeah, its awfully convenient to decline additional risk coverage before hand but then to demand it after the fact. Draw your own moral conclusions, ut thats not the way the actual world works.
You shipped a item to someone without the proper insurance? You responsible for the buyer to receive his item he bought. Yes he shown you the post office damaged the package but thats not the buyer's fault. You should make it right and fight with the post office over the $50 since your were to stupid to have insured for whats its worth, I think your selling and buying here are over
Let say that Taylor paid the extra 10bucks for the insurance
and this would have happen just as it has, and the USPS denied the claim saying that the packaging was not correct. not strong enough What would you do? He cant control how you packaged the bullets
Just curious I will give you this you dont cower to the crowd I think you are very wrong but I know you dont care what I think Hank
I would have immediately sent more bullets or refunded the money had he agreed to and purchased more insurance. Thats the issue i have is that both parties agreed before hand that the contents would be insured for $50. Yeah, its awfully convenient to decline additional risk coverage before hand but then to demand it after the fact. Draw your own moral conclusions, ut thats not the way the actual world works.
Originally Posted by Willicd76
Originally Posted by boatboy
Let me just ask a question to the seller
Will seems to be following
Let say that Taylor paid the extra 10bucks for the insurance
and this would have happen just as it has, and the USPS denied the claim saying that the packaging was not correct. not strong enough What would you do? He cant control how you packaged the bullets
Just curious I will give you this you dont cower to the crowd I think you are very wrong but I know you dont care what I think Hank
I would have immediately sent more bullets or refunded the money had he agreed to and purchased more insurance. Thats the issue i have is that both parties agreed before hand that the contents would be insured for $50. Yeah, its awfully convenient to decline additional risk coverage before hand but then to demand it after the fact. Draw your own moral conclusions, ut thats not the way the actual world works.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
I don’t disagree with anything you posted, but have you ever tried to collect on usps insurance? I will 100% guarantee they would have stated that is was poorly packaged and not paid a dime, even if it were insured for the full amount.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
It’s cheap piece of mind is t it?
Might as well just pay it as a seller to prevent this exact scenario
FUGK CCP
It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
You all are obviously passionate about KT being made whole and m passionate that i fulfilled my obligation. I propose you take up a collection for a round trip plane ride and send your preferred keyboard bada$$ to take it out of my hide. Ill go ahead and nominate acesneights since he already sent a PM offering to do just that.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
I don’t disagree with anything you posted, but have you ever tried to collect on usps insurance? I will 100% guarantee they would have stated that is was poorly packaged and not paid a dime, even if it were insured for the full amount.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
It’s cheap piece of mind is t it?
Might as well just pay it as a seller to prevent this exact scenario
Its not about money, its about an agreement. We had one and then the rules change after the fact.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
Exactly ... At that point the only cock-fight is to see who is going to do the footwork to get the insurance claim going .
You all are obviously passionate about KT being made whole and m passionate that i fulfilled my obligation. I propose you take up a collection for a round trip plane ride and send your preferred keyboard bada$$ to take it out of my hide. Ill go ahead and nominate acesneights since he already sent a PM offering to do just that.
Only a fool would sacrifice his reputation for such a small amount of money.
I am pretty positive that the buyer isn’t going to starve by you failing in your responsibility to make him whole. He’ll be fine.
You’ll never get your good name back. People know you and who and what you are so whether banned or not, whether able to self regulate your participation here or not, you’re done.
That seems to me the height of foolishness, but it’s your integrity to value or devalue.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
I don’t disagree with anything you posted, but have you ever tried to collect on usps insurance? I will 100% guarantee they would have stated that is was poorly packaged and not paid a dime, even if it were insured for the full amount.
You also need to prove value. You can insure a box of jello for $500, but that doesn't mean that the USPS will just pay you $500 if it gets lost.
All this over taking $6 out of your pocket to cover you both. It was obviously a concern or you wouldnt have asked. Not to say you were obligated but I dont know how many times Ive covered part of the shipping cost one way or another. My reputation is worth more than $6.
It’s cheap piece of mind is t it?
Might as well just pay it as a seller to prevent this exact scenario
Its not about money, its about an agreement. We had one and then the rules change after the fact.
Yes, and it was your packing job (not the amount of insurance) that caused the issue.
Let say that Taylor paid the extra 10bucks for the insurance
and this would have happen just as it has, and the USPS denied the claim saying that the packaging was not correct. not strong enough What would you do? He cant control how you packaged the bullets
Just curious I will give you this you dont cower to the crowd I think you are very wrong but I know you dont care what I think Hank
I would have immediately sent more bullets or refunded the money had he agreed to and purchased more insurance. Thats the issue i have is that both parties agreed before hand that the contents would be insured for $50. Yeah, its awfully convenient to decline additional risk coverage before hand but then to demand it after the fact. Draw your own moral conclusions, ut thats not the way the actual world works.
Hey at least you are getting your post count up.The question you have to ask yourself how much are your morals worth? Do you want to keep selling stuff here? Play it out anyway in your mental midget head but your are WRONG.Pay the man his $$
Not happening boys. This hypothetical "campfire" is such a small fraction of my life that it doesnt matter to me whether it goes or stays....... in any capacity. Its a great classified outlet. Other than that, its chocked full of experts on every subject, most of whom dont know their a$$ from a hole in the ground.
You all are obviously passionate about KT being made whole and m passionate that i fulfilled my obligation. I propose you take up a collection for a round trip plane ride and send your preferred keyboard bada$$ to take it out of my hide. Ill go ahead and nominate acesneights since he already sent a PM offering to do just that.
Only a fool would sacrifice his reputation for such a small amount of money.
I am pretty positive that the buyer isn’t going to starve by you failing in your responsibility to make him whole. He’ll be fine.
You’ll never get your good name back. People know you and who and what you are so whether banned or not, whether able to self regulate your participation here or not, you’re done.
That seems to me the height of foolishness, but it’s your integrity to value or devalue.
And a simple Google search will likely lead future buyers to this thread.
Its not about money, its about an agreement..............The agreement was he paid you for bullets and you were to ship them and make sure they got there. You got your money, he got a beat up empty box. And you still think that's fair???? Something very wrong here. To bad you don't see it.
