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I recently received my Browning Model 71 conversion to 50-110 back from Turnbull and I absolutely love it! It's got a 26" rust blued octagonal barrel and I added the extended tube magazine. I added checkering to the factory buttstock and installed a Pachmayr decelerator pad. I also had them install an aluminum pillar around the screw that holds the buttstock to the frame for added strength. We replaced the factory forend with a custom checkered forend in order to accommodate the octagonal barrel. It's got a Marble's silver bead front sight along with a Marble's bullseye rear sight. I also had them color case harden the receiver, hammer, lever, and forend cap. All other metal finishes were blued and the wood received a nice red oil finish.

It's shooting great with everything that I have loaded for it so far. I plan to carry it on a cape buffalo hunt that I have scheduled for July. The load that I plan to use is a 450 grain Swift A Frame over a Starline case full of RL15, ignited by a Fed 215 LRM primer.

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Damn 'beautiful hammer' i love mine, hope you fill the freezers with it for many seasons to come.


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Thanks bud, I appreciate the load development help!

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You're most welcome 8Point, you're gonna have a blast with that rifle.


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Saw one of his units, I think it was a 45-90, on a local rack years back. I sure wish I had bought it. I suspect it would have been a very fine investment.

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Beautiful rifle. My neighbor has a Winchester 1886 in 45-70 by Turnbull, it looks and shoots great!

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Beautiful rifle!

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Originally Posted by 1minute
Saw one of his units, I think it was a 45-90, on a local rack years back. I sure wish I had bought it. I suspect it would have been a very fine investment.


The 45-90 cartridge has piqued my interest as of late. I'm currently struggling with the desire to build a rifle that will shoot this cartridge.

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Originally Posted by Mrhp
Beautiful rifle!


Thank you Mrhp! After reading your post about your desire to build a 50-110 I decided to create this post since I just recently received my conversion back from Turnbull Mfg. Best of luck should you decide to move forward with your project!

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50 years from now, some fellow will be paying $40k for that rifle...

Meanwhile, chances are the car you bought last year that cost 5X this rifle will be razor blades.

Very nice!


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Originally Posted by Tarbe
50 years from now, some fellow will be paying $40k for that rifle...

Meanwhile, chances are the car you bought last year that cost 5X this rifle will be razor blades.

Very nice!



Was up at 3 a.m CST waiting on a cc cold reading the campfire, i showed Wife your post as she was sitting me a mug of coffee down............AWE, she said, do you need to buy another rifle sweetheart? well yes i do Dear! ; ] LOL!


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Originally Posted by Tarbe
50 years from now, some fellow will be paying $40k for that rifle...

Meanwhile, chances are the car you bought last year that cost 5X this rifle will be razor blades.

Very nice!



Was up at 3 a.m CST waiting on a cc cold reading the campfire, i showed Wife your post as she was sitting me a mug of coffee down............AWE, she said, do you need to buy another rifle sweetheart? well yes i do Dear! ; ] LOL!


I am so glad I could help!! smile


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Wowzer , that's a beautiful 71.

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That is a great looking conversion.

Looking forward to reading about your Cape Buffalo hunt.

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Beautiful for sure. Another "Oh my !" moment when I saw that.

Is 2.85" the longest COL that will work through an M71 or 1886 ?
That would apply to either .50-110 WCF or .45-90, both having 2.4" cases and allowing 0.45" of FN bullet projection forward of case mouth ?

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Originally Posted by Riflecrank

Is 2.85" the longest COL that will work through an M71 or 1886 ?
That would apply to either .50-110 WCF or .45-90, both having 2.4" cases and allowing 0.45" of FN bullet projection forward of case mouth ?


I have often seen a max of 2.88” quoted. It is harder to achieve that with the 50/110. The max OAL is also a function of the meplat width and how much work has been done to get the loaded shell through the loading gate and into the magazine. When Marlin shoehorned the 45/70 into the 336 action they had to make a few changes. One of them was to put a bulge in the mag tube opposite the loading gate. This was to allow the fat 45/70 case enough room to swing around and fit in the mag tube.

If you look at original 50/110 factory loadings, most bullets have a short nose and a narrow meplat. I’m guessing they would be around 2.7-2.75” in OAL.

I have 50/110 and a 45/90 conversions built on 1886 and 71 (Miroku) actions respectively. I try to keep OAL down to 2.80” in the 50/110 and 2.85” in the 45/90. That gives me a small margin of safety if I need crank out shells quickly. There’s no point having a levergun that has feeding issues.

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Originally Posted by JFE
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I have 50/110 and a 45/90 conversions built on 1886 and 71 (Miroku) actions respectively. I try to keep OAL down to 2.80” in the 50/110 and 2.85” in the 45/90. That gives me a small margin of safety if I need crank out shells quickly. There’s no point having a levergun that has feeding issues.

JFE,
That was good info on the meplat size and the COL being important in feeding those lever actions.
I tried my Brownining/Miroku 1886 .45-70 and 2.800" is the longest I can work through the loading gate and lever up to start chambering.
Yes, the narrower meplat of the 400-gr Swift A-Frame loads easier than the broader meplat of the 400-gr Barnes Buster, both at 2.800" COL
even though both are too long to fit in the no-throat .45-70 chamber with .457"-grooved barrel.
Amazingly the Hornady 480-grain DGX-Bonded at 2.780" COL will feed through loading gate and chamber without resistance in the SAAMI .45-70 Govt. chamber.
It is only .455" diameter above the cannelure, tapering to FN meplat of about 0.250" diameter. Might be safe ?


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8point said "The 45-90 cartridge has piqued my interest as of late. I'm currently struggling with the desire to build a rifle that will shoot this cartridge."

The Miroku/Winchester 1886 45-90 TD handles 45-70 and 45-90 ammo just fine. Mine is very plain externally, but all standard internally.
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From 300 grain light game loads to 450 grain DG loads at 2150 fps, it has proven to be an accurate and effective hunting rifle.


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