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As long as hunters are content with mounting trash on their rifles we will see no better than trash offered competitively priced.

November 2021?

I have seen the future!

The fabric of the space-time continuum has been torn asunder!

SWFA may not be out of business, but it sure as hell is hard to buy one of their scopes.

How many of those Weavers were sold, and how many of those comparatively few that were sold got a good workout? What are the actual differences in the erector/adjustment assemblies?

The shipments from China take awhile.

Physically, I do not know. I don't rake my scopes apart. But what I do know is that the Weaver adjustments work. That's difference enough for me.

They're made in Japan, not China.

Weaver showed, more than fifty years ago, that it was not that difficult to build a scope with usable adjustments. They also demonstrated it was possible to build scopes which were rugged. What they did not do was produce scopes with great optics. I have a couple of older Weaver scopes, US and Japanese, on silhouette rifles and they track perfectly. I have one Leupold and it works fine as long as I remember to adjust the windage, along with the elevation, when I move from point to point. If they could make scopes in El Paso which adjusted well, you would think the people in Oregon could do the same. GD

Okay, but that one didn't make the cut. You have to bear in mind that actual Quality wasn’t the goal. The goal was to satisfy those who demand companies they do business with have a Quality program in place, similar to ISO. Once Quality had run its course, everyone involved got new business cards and became ISO consultants. This time, part of the schtick was that you not only had to adhere to ISO practices, but you could only date ISO girls, drink ISO beer, and had to abandon all your old non- ISO friends, unless you could drag them into the club.

Kinda like Baptists.....

JB,
The HD models are made in Japan....

I have wondered on occasion whether Leupold's lightweight tubes may be the reason there are so many tracking issues. It may be that the slightest ring misalignment causes the erector to bind up. All I know is I grew weary of the hassle of zeroing a Leupold scope. Whatever the cause, I wish they'd address it and not continue to try to blow smoke up everyone's ass.

Good question. I've wondered the same about one of my Z3 that continues to have tracking problems even after a trip to the factory. As I recall, Swarovski recommends the lightest scope ring tightening of any scope I've played with.

Being ISO certified has much less to do with achieving true quality than simply documenting your production processes and QC procedures and adhering to them---on paper at least. It does not guarantee a superior product.

You Amazingly STUPID Fhuqks never disappoint and ESPECIALLY when doing your BEST. Hint. Congratulations?!?



Bless your hearts for TRYING though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!!!.................

Bingo. All it is saying what you do and doing what you say.

Oh Boy. Sphincterwrinkle is here.

And once certification is granted all that goes right out the effing window as soon as it entails some added costs, or makes someone sad....

Been there, done that, and all it accomplished was draining the corporate coffers, again, and rid us of all that pesky hard-copy documentation that we only used like nearly every day. Oh yeah, almost forgot, the night shift had to rearrange their schedules and screw up their lives in general so they could attend the stupid-azz seminars.

Just another scam like multi-level marketing.

That can happen and I'm sure it does quite often. It does not have to be that way, though.

My own organization is currently undergoing some very demanding certification (aviation-related) and those of us involved in this are being very careful to ensure that we don't produce documented requirements that would paint us into a corner of our own making. Good, smart management decisions can keep an organization out of the weeds when it comes to this sort of thing. Unfortunately, good management is not a common commodity.

Scarce as chicken lips...