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Never watched this movie...🤔


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That movie is one of the most underrated movies of all time. It was beyond any doubt, Murphey's finest performance as an actor.



I agree! Murphy’s best acting!!!

Loved Lillian Gish playing the piano!!





Murphy was no Burt Lancaster. smile


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Interesting comment on your linked site:

According to Burt Lancaster biographer Gary Fishgall, Lancaster and Audie Murphy were engaged in an invitational tournament at a new golf course near Durango. John Huston had an airplane filled with 2000 ping-pong balls with anti-Mexican and profane language and had them dropped all over the course, making it impossible to continue as none of the players could find their golf balls. Lancaster, who co-sponsored the event, was furious with Huston.

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Going to netflix em all if possible, friend gave me his password. I still feel things will get very brutal in public here and we are the Indians.


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The Unforgiven makes my top 10 western list. Excellent movie that I saw when I was a kid. The hanged guy was Joseph Wiseman, IIRC.

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The book The Unforgiven, was the basis for the movie. Alan LeMay was the author of it and also The Searchers. The Searchers basically is about conflicts with the Comanche tribe and The Unforgiven is about conflicts with the Kiowas.

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Damn good movie


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Charles Bickford, John Saxon and Doug McClure were also in it. McClure went on to star as Trampas in the long running TV western, The Virginian.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
The book The Unforgiven, was the basis for the movie. Alan LeMay was the author of it and also The Searchers. The Searchers basically is about conflicts with the Comanche tribe and The Unforgiven is about conflicts with the Kiowas.



Very interesting and THANK YOU. I will be picking up the books via amazon


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Originally Posted by Quak
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The book The Unforgiven, was the basis for the movie. Alan LeMay was the author of it and also The Searchers. The Searchers basically is about conflicts with the Comanche tribe and The Unforgiven is about conflicts with the Kiowas.



Very interesting and THANK YOU. I will be picking up the books via amazon
No problem.

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I like the scene before the final showdown where Momma plays the piano by the river while everyone stands guard around her, rifles ready.


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Originally Posted by mjbgalt
Lillian gish was born in Massillon Ohio where i live. I see her picture in places downtown but really never gave it a thought. Even a Lillian gish boulevard. Guess she was really good, huh?


Good? Yeah, I think one could say that she was.


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"Lillian Diana Gish (October 14, 1893 – February 27, 1993) was an American pioneering actress of the screen and stage, and a director and writer. Her film acting career spanned 75 years, from 1912, in silent film shorts, to 1987. Gish was called "The First Lady of American Cinema", and is credited with pioneering fundamental film performance techniques."
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Melvyn Douglas presenting an Honorary Oscar to Lillian Gish for superlative artistry and for distinguished contribution to the progress of motion pictures, at the 43rd Academy Awards in 1971.



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Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the rifles used in The Unforgiven Sharps carbines. I haven't watched that one in a long time but IIRC they were sharps. Guess I'd best watch it tonight.
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Started watching Black Robe last night on youtube...pretty good so far


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Saw Black Robe just a while ago and yes, loved its feel and details. Very authentic. One vivid shock of a dismissable special effect but ....nit pick .

Great feel for vastness and tenuous way of life of Jesuits and natives.

Bone Tomahawk.....had me wondering who dreamt up that sick mess and why did I watch it to the end for 'entertainment'?

I know off no basis for anything like that group of pre historic,....whatever the heck they were supposed to be.

For those who haven't seen it, it is about a 'tribe' of cliff dwelling , isolated, savage folks with some self mutilated hole in their sternums they can sort of whistle through to communicate in a way that identifies other tribe members. The most disturbing scene involves a scalping and splitting open of a captive before they eat him. Oh that and the blinded, mutilated, barely kept alive impregnated surrogates......

There- no reason to watch now.

Thank me later.


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Originally Posted by PJGunner
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the rifles used in The Unforgiven Sharps carbines. I haven't watched that one in a long time but IIRC they were sharps. Guess I'd best watch it tonight.
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I did watch it and there was one Sharpes rifle, several Sharpes carbines, two Winchester 92s doctored up to look like iron frame Henrys. I don't think I saw any Springfields though. I'd forgotten what good movie it was.
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Originally Posted by kenjs1
Bone Tomahawk.....had me wondering who dreamt up that sick mess and why did I watch it to the end for 'entertainment'?

I know off no basis for anything like that group of pre historic,....whatever the heck they were supposed to be.

For those who haven't seen it, it is about a 'tribe' of cliff dwelling , isolated, savage folks with some self mutilated hole in their sternums they can sort of whistle through to communicate in a way that identifies other tribe members. The most disturbing scene involves a scalping and splitting open of a captive before they eat him. Oh that and the blinded, mutilated, barely kept alive impregnated surrogates......

There- no reason to watch now.

Thank me later.


My sentiments about it exactly.

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Originally Posted by kenjs1
Saw Black Robe just a while ago and yes, loved its feel and details. Very authentic. One vivid shock of a dismissable special effect but ....nit pick .

Great feel for vastness and tenuous way of life of Jesuits and natives.

Bone Tomahawk.....had me wondering who dreamt up that sick mess and why did I watch it to the end for 'entertainment'?

I know off no basis for anything like that group of pre historic,....whatever the heck they were supposed to be.

For those who haven't seen it, it is about a 'tribe' of cliff dwelling , isolated, savage folks with some self mutilated hole in their sternums they can sort of whistle through to communicate in a way that identifies other tribe members. The most disturbing scene involves a scalping and splitting open of a captive before they eat him. Oh that and the blinded, mutilated, barely kept alive impregnated surrogates......

There- no reason to watch now.

Thank me later.

I remember that now. guess I'd mentally blocked it

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Originally Posted by drover
Not to take away from The Unforgiven - it is an excellent movie also IMO but I did not find it particuarily brutal/

If you want to see a brutal Indian movie take a look at Black Robe. It is not a very fast moving plot but I suspect that it is more realistic than most movies made about that era.

Black Robe - preview: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101465/


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Thank you

Cold and raining here again today, watched Black Robe this morning.

Excellent movie.

When I was young I read everything I could find on the fur trade and early European exploration of North America. I have some time now and may reread some of it.

Thanks again

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I have a pair of fire strikers made by the late Mike Ameling. He referred to them as his "Daniel" strikers from when Daniel is lighting the slowmatch on his match lock. He tried to replicate them best he could. Here you go!

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