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Originally Posted by PJGunner
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I’ve killed numerous nilgai with a 7x57. Used 140 Swift
A-frames, Sierra 170 round nose Pro-hunters, 140 Partitions. Caught the A-frame as I tried to drive it length-wise.


I see you used the 170 gr. Sierra round nose Pro-Hunters. How well did they work for you? Did they hold together fairly well? The reason I'm asking is I came into a small sully of those bullets and would like to try them on game.
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Worked perfect on a nilgai cow. I may have a picture of the recovered bullet somewhere.

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Originally Posted by WAM
I am sure this has been batted around ad nauseam, but how many of you are currently using a 7x57 as your primary rifle for elk and mule deer? I know it’s capable, just curious about bullets used, load velocity, etc.


Dad used 160 NP's over 48 grains of H4831 in a 7x57 for 3 elk, 1 booner BC moose, 1 Bighorn sheep, 1 Stone sheep, x antelope, y whitetails, 1 mulie, 1 mountain caribou, & 1 mountain goat. None required a 2nd shot.

I've found H4350 to work a little better in this rifle, but I'm sticking with the 160 NP's.

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I'm building a 7x57 around the 160 np now.


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Originally Posted by bluefish
I'm building a 7x57 around the 160 np now.


The more < 1950 production rifles I shoot, the more it seems these guys had things pretty well figured-out a long damned time ago.

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Keep us posted on your project!


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Will do. Just got the barreled action back.


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Prudently handloaded in a modern action it is identical (or nearly so) to the 7-08 Rem. A 140 grain TTSX does the job nicely.

Because elk can be shot at extended ranges at times, handloading is something to be desired.

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I have a friend who has shot a number of elk with a .222.


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I loaded a 140ttsx in a 21” barreled 7/08 ( I couldn’t decide on a20 or 22” barrel....where have I read that before!?) for my mom’s Africa trip. It killed everything from impala to a big zebra very well. I’m sure it would work equally well for your 7x57.

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It really makes no difference in the case size, it's the placement, and energy of the bullet that counts. If the case was 5 inches long the bullet will have greater energy , but it's the same bullet. I have been personally been involved in two 7 X 57 kills. Both went fine, but the second required a backup shot with another rifle. It was hit a little far back and made it to the top of the ridge, stopped for an instant, and was finished with a larger caliber. There is nothing magical about any particular cartridge, its always the same factors, placement, and energy. More energy allows one a greater margin of error, but placement is the key. As was once said, "bring enough gun", was a result of a high velocity small caliber rifle failing to take down a hyena, The animal was attempting to eat a couple of folks and was dispatched by a 470 Nitro Express. Most likely overkill but still a lesson. Hence the phrase "bring enough gun".

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Originally Posted by WAM
I am sure this has been batted around ad nauseam, but how many of you are currently using a 7x57 as your primary rifle for elk and mule deer? I know it’s capable, just curious about bullets used, load velocity, etc.


280 rem with moderate loads, 140g partitions.

7x57 for all intents and purposes.


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I have killed 4 elk with my .280 Remington loaded with Remington 175 gr Cor-Lokt,, 160 grain Speer Grand Slams (two elk) and 160 grain Nosler Partition. All were loaded around 2,800 fps. The 175 was loaded before I understood pressure signs, and it was severely overloaded. All four of these elk died instantly and never took a step. Shots were between 113 and 375 yards. I'm very sure a 7x57 similarly loaded would have given very similar results.

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I've killed two cow elk with mine. 150 grain partitions.

Worked great.

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Anybody know how many elephants Bell killed with the 7x57? Think they were calling it a 276 Rigby then!

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Originally Posted by DonFischer
Anybody know how many elephants Bell killed with the 7x57? Think they were calling it a 276 Rigby then!


"They" were not calling a 276 Rigby then. The British called it the .275 Rigby.

Bell's was a .275, and he killed a bunch of elephants with it--using brain shots with "solid" bullets, which is irrelevant to this discussion. In fact, he actually preferred the 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer (which was called the .256 by the Brits) using solids of around 160 grains, because his customized M-S carbine. But the Austrian ammo available had brittle cases, which often separated--so he switched to his .275.. But for really tough-angle shots in thicker cover he used the .318 Westley Richards, with 250-grain bullets.

All of this is still irrelevant to shooting big game with expanding bullets.


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Ah, the irrelephants again.

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That ole 7x59 Westly-Schownower was always a classic.

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Originally Posted by PintsofCraft
That ole 7x59 Westly-Schownower was always a classic.



The WHAT?



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Don't ask, Tom, don't ask...


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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Don't ask, Tom, don't ask...


Sometimes I just can't help myself .....


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