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whats wrong in this picture of 1899 #15902980 03/15/21
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my imagination or not, was it done?


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Re: whats wrong in this picture of 1899 [Re: deerstalker] #15903004 03/15/21
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Is that a pre-90.000 serial number receiver? If not, why does it have a flat back bolt lock up?

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Re: whats wrong in this picture of 1899 [Re: deerstalker] #15903122 03/15/21
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looks like it to me! but the # is 199xxx a take down, sure looks weird to me, but i think i am going blind looking at 47 blurry pictures of one gun on GB crazy

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Picture might just be misleading with the receiver at just the right angle. Weird though.

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Because we know from historic evidence that there were no purple sheets or color photography during that time period, one can quickly deduce this picture is a fraud. That is what is wrong in this picture of 1899. 😂

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Originally Posted by JohnnyMac007
Because we know from historic evidence that there were no purple sheets or color photography during that time period, one can quickly deduce this picture is a fraud. That is what is wrong in this picture of 1899. 😂

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Looks like phosphate finish/parkerized.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
Picture might just be misleading with the receiver at just the right angle. Weird though.
I think your right that it's the picture angle. There is a round cocking indicator in the receiver and I think there is enough of the bolt in the picture to show there isn't one in the bolt. The rear corners of the bolt look like they are slightly curved.

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This picture shows one that is unusual, there isn't a cocking indicator in the bolt or in the receiver, but it is not original???
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Also notice how sharp the corners of the bolt are.

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Re: whats wrong in this picture of 1899 [Re: deerstalker] #15903562 03/16/21
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I think there is a pop-up indicator on that third one, Gene. It's right at the center of the engraved whorl. Absolutely beautiful job of blending it in.

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Rory, i think your right indicator centered in the whorl, My brother has a square bolt gun with no cocking indicator in the bolt. Don

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Originally Posted by Loggah
Rory, i think your right indicator centered in the whorl, My brother has a square bolt gun with no cocking indicator in the bolt. Don

Interesting.. wonder if there's a work order against that one?

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Is there supposed to be something wrong? More pictures of the gun would be a great help in sizing the 99 up.


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Rory, there is no indicator, the whorl just happens to be about the right spot.

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I wondered if it is a later replacement bolt and when done Savage machined it from a newer bolt body that did not have a cocking indicator.


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You're right.. no indicator. Photos are tricky. And yeah, a later bolt being fitted is what I was thinking of with Loggah's brother's rifle as well. We know they wouldn't work on them later, but I'm sure there were a few years after 1909 where they would. And for an engraved rifle, they might have made an exception for a bit longer.

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I think the engraving on this one was done many years after the gun was made, it has been completely reworked including some major stock work. Possibly a gunsmith modified a later bolt for it.


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Originally Posted by S99VG
Is there supposed to be something wrong? More pictures of the gun would be a great help in sizing the 99 up.

current gb sale. just thought it looked wonky. have to admit it may have been my eyes. i looked at about 500 blurry GB pictures last night. why people post pics you cant even make out what the object is beats me.





now i will do just that! grin

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they are trying to hide something.


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Originally Posted by deerstalker
Originally Posted by S99VG
Is there supposed to be something wrong? More pictures of the gun would be a great help in sizing the 99 up.

current gb sale. just thought it looked wonky. have to admit it may have been my eyes. i looked at about 500 blurry GB pictures last night. why people post pics you cant even make out what the object is beats me.





now i will do just that! grin


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Welllllll.... smile I really have no idea what's going on here! But I have my 1899 file pix and I want to play too! So, below my SN 76K Savage. Born in 1908; proud era of a truly great American president, TR! In thuty-thuty, Sur! I can spell it so, but never get the drawl right.
As far as wrong with that photo... My guess, no bikini babe holding it! But the upside, after I scroll away, I can remember what the gun was! Just now, some other nice & interesting guns coming along the way. I'll be interested in how it all turns out... And awaiting!
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Re: whats wrong in this picture of 1899 [Re: deerstalker] #15908581 03/17/21
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Looks good! FYI, the serial number puts it as summer of 1907 rather than 1908.

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