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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15676885 01/19/21
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I didn't have to join. I was in a job that could have kept me out and I was much older than everyone else in my platoon. I went in 1969. I was injured and spent six months in Bal Boa Naval Hospital and six months in Camp Pendleton Naval Hospital. I've spent time in VA hospitals after I got out.

After being in Bal Boa for awhile a friend from my platoon was admitted. He told me that half the platoon (40 teen agers) was dead already (they hadn't been in country all that long). I never heard how many made it back to the states. I need to go to the wall.

In my high school class more people killed themselves after they got back then were killed in Vietnam. My brother-in-law also killed himself after he got back.

We couldn't get jobs because we were veterans. The signs on the HR doors stated, "NO VETERANS!" The police harassed veterans because they knew we were all dope dealers. The story goes on and it wasn't good.

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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: bobski] #15699793 01/24/21
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Saw your post...was their in 73-74...knew some of the Marines that were evacuated in "Operation Frequent Wind." Knew most members of PSU for Ambassador

Graham Martin. Served at AMB. residence then later was awaiting orders for Da Nang Consulate. Couple weeks later, I and some more Marines were sent to MH # 2.

Close to end of my tour, put in request for 6 month extension but State Dept. had decided to reduce the ranks there. If I would have gotten it, would have been there

during the siege/fall. Thanks for getting all the Marines and Embassy personnel out. It's a shame the S.Dept. didn't get everyone out that was promised...especially

in Da Nang.

By the way, haven't read all the posts but the last, mostly Marines on the Vietnam Wall, were killed during the SS Mayaguez incident...aprox. 40 Marines.

Met a GySgt. in 2010 that was there and his SS 56/7 was shot down. It happened about 2 weeks after Operation Frequent Wind.

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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Bugger] #15717950 01/28/21
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Originally Posted by Bugger
I didn't have to join. I was in a job that could have kept me out and I was much older than everyone else in my platoon. I went in 1969. I was injured and spent six months in Bal Boa Naval Hospital and six months in Camp Pendleton Naval Hospital. I've spent time in VA hospitals after I got out.

After being in Bal Boa for awhile a friend from my platoon was admitted. He told me that half the platoon (40 teen agers) was dead already (they hadn't been in country all that long). I never heard how many made it back to the states. I need to go to the wall.

In my high school class more people killed themselves after they got back then were killed in Vietnam. My brother-in-law also killed himself after he got back.

We couldn't get jobs because we were veterans. The signs on the HR doors stated, "NO VETERANS!" The police harassed veterans because they knew we were all dope dealers. The story goes on and it wasn't good.

[bleep] LBJ.



Man I’m sorry to hear that. Thanks for all you’ve done and God bless those gone by

Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: MGunns] #15717952 01/28/21
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Originally Posted by Bugger
I didn't have to join. I was in a job that could have kept me out and I was much older than everyone else in my platoon. I went in 1969. I was injured and spent six months in Bal Boa Naval Hospital and six months in Camp Pendleton Naval Hospital. I've spent time in VA hospitals after I got out.

After being in Bal Boa for awhile a friend from my platoon was admitted. He told me that half the platoon (40 teen agers) was dead already (they hadn't been in country all that long). I never heard how many made it back to the states. I need to go to the wall.

In my high school class more people killed themselves after they got back then were killed in Vietnam. My brother-in-law also killed himself after he got back.

We couldn't get jobs because we were veterans. The signs on the HR doors stated, "NO VETERANS!" The police harassed veterans because they knew we were all dope dealers. The story goes on and it wasn't good.

[bleep] LBJ.



Man I’m sorry to hear that. Thanks for all you’ve done and God bless those gone by


My Dad served in Vietnam and his brother, my uncle died at Khe Sahn. You all never got the thanks you deserve

Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15779655 02/12/21
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This Thread strikes interest in me I am the generation younger than most commenting here. My father-in-law Vietnam era vet but was never in Vietnam I will never knock him for his service but he sure eats up the veteran status when able. My mother's brother speaks very little of it what was in the absolute middle of everything. Dustoff unit volunteered for the Declassified nowadays poww Rescue Mission
It takes all aspects to keep things rolling I understand this but somehow the ones that did the most talked to least it seems like or at least right out of the situation very confusing for a lot of people.

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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15782856 02/13/21
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THANK YOU to every body that went to that chitt hole .that was a useless war that wasted to many men in my op.

Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15783552 02/13/21
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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15794387 02/16/21
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Just buried my FIL last week. He served from 69-94. Never went to Vietnam, but not by his choosing. Just worked out that way. He did get in some time during the Gulf War and almost got it when the British lit up their convoy. He never mentioned being a Vietnam era vet as it was too much to explain and usually said he was too young for Vietnam if anyone asked.

He was buried in a National Cemetery with full honors. The one thing he didn't do prior to dying was have his uniform ready to be buried in. He made it clear he wanted to be buried in the uniform so I had to recreate as much as I could from his DD214. I bought half the ribbons and used some of my own. They already had him in the jacket in the casket, so I had to do it all while he was wearing it. Might have poked him a time or two, just for the hell of it.


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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15804509 02/18/21
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I I listed in the Army in 66 to 69. Went to Vietnam in August of 66 did one tour. I was a crane operator and worked Saigon port and barge sites around Saigon. I always felt a little guilty about never being in combat when I see what other guys went through. I think the only people that were happy to see me to come home were my parents. I wear a Vietnam Veteran hat at times and people will thank me for my service but I feel guilty because I wasn’t a combat veteran.

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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: minton] #15901973 03/15/21
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Originally Posted by minton
Saw your post...was their in 73-74...knew some of the Marines that were evacuated in "Operation Frequent Wind." Knew most members of PSU for Ambassador

Graham Martin. Served at AMB. residence then later was awaiting orders for Da Nang Consulate. Couple weeks later, I and some more Marines were sent to MH # 2.

Close to end of my tour, put in request for 6 month extension but State Dept. had decided to reduce the ranks there. If I would have gotten it, would have been there

during the siege/fall. Thanks for getting all the Marines and Embassy personnel out. It's a shame the S.Dept. didn't get everyone out that was promised...especially

in Da Nang.

By the way, haven't read all the posts but the last, mostly Marines on the Vietnam Wall, were killed during the SS Mayaguez incident...aprox. 40 Marines.

Met a GySgt. in 2010 that was there and his SS 56/7 was shot down. It happened about 2 weeks after Operation Frequent Wind.


I have a high school class mate who was involved in that incident. He lost several good friends in that operation. To the best of my knowledge their bodies were never returned. My friend stayed for 20 years in the Corp and retired out as a GySgt.
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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15909587 03/17/21
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Originally Posted by chance
I I listed in the Army in 66 to 69. Went to Vietnam in August of 66 did one tour. I was a crane operator and worked Saigon port and barge sites around Saigon. I always felt a little guilty about never being in combat when I see what other guys went through. I think the only people that were happy to see me to come home were my parents. I wear a Vietnam Veteran hat at times and people will thank me for my service but I feel guilty because I wasn’t a combat veteran.

Terry


Years ago I was talking to a SEAL who had written a book and mentioned that I had been in uniform but not in Viet Nam. He said, "You did your part".

One man I knew was a truck driver in VN and felt like you stated.

You both did your parts, too.


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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: crsides] #15922118 03/21/21
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Originally Posted by crsides
If you served in the early 70's, you gotta be 70+ yrs old. I say put it behind you and move on. From a guy who served my 2yrs in Italy 1969-71. And was glad of it.


Almost correct. Joined the USAF in Aug 1971. Retired in September 1992 and currently am 67. Was never troubled by not going to Nam. I volunteered on my dream sheer but was never selected. The military is a team. We all did our parts to make it run smoothly.


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I worked with a guy back in the 90s that was drafted in 1970. His BIL was a SMAJ in Germany and he pulled some strings for him. Got sent to Germany and worked in a mail room for two years.

Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: MOGC] #15982480 04/10/21
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Originally Posted by MOGC
Yesterday I had an interesting conversation with a guy and wonder what y'all thoughts are. A little background...

I have known this guy for years very casually. His daughter and my daughter are the same age and both of them being athletes in high school we sat through a lot of various sporting events together. Nowadays it's grandkids and we are once again sitting around watching volleyball, basketball and softball games. This gentleman is always decked out in some sort of Army apparel, usually of the Vietnam era. Shirts, jackets, hats with "Vietnam Vet", Ranger tabs, jump wings, CIB, POW, ect. He keeps a POW flag and 101st Airborne Screaming Eagles flag flying in his front yard. I had always assumed he saw action in Vietnam. He has a CIB pin on his hat and CIB patch on his jacket. People often tell him "thank you for your service," and one day a guy introduced his son to him as a hero. "Look son, this man is an Army Ranger and was a POW in Vietnam." The guy in question always acknowledged the thank you as if it were fact.

Yesterday we ended up sitting beside each other at a basketball game and had a one hour break between games. That gave us some time for conversation and I asked about his service in the Army. I was surprised when he told me he never went to Vietnam. He enlisted and served in the Army from 71-75 and his only posting out of the US was to Germany. He was a crewman on an APC and was a trained as a mortar man. He said he was later "attached to the 101st". No talk of earning a Ranger Tab, CIB or of POW.

Seems pretty disingenuous to me. Is this a case of Stolen Valor?


Absolutely Stolen Valor.
Especially the CIB. And if a real Ranger caught him pretending to be one, a butt kicking would not be out of the question.
I beat the draft by enlisting in the Army in late 1967. After Basic and AIT i was assigned to a field artillery unit at Fort Carson, Colorado.
One winter at Carson, going to the field with the guns in below zero temps and FEET of snow was no place for a Florida Boy.
I volunteered for a lot of places trying to get out of there, but kept getting turned down. They accepted my request for overseas service in the Republic of Vietnam, however.

I was assigned to a brigade that was on loan to the Marines, and operated with them along the DMZ. It was known as Indian Country.
I spent my year behind the wire on an infantry base camp. Got to dodge rockets, mortars, and the occasional sniper, but at least I wasn't out beating the bush.

The only people eligible to EARN a CIB have the MOS of 11B (Infantry). I was not, but was awarded a Meritorious Bronze Star Medal instead. But, I never wear it, nor the Army Commendation Medal I was awarded, either.
I DO wear caps identifying myself as having served in the 5th Infantry Division - I'm damn proud of that.

To me, anyone who raised their right hand, took the oath, and served honorably, is my Brother or Sister.
I don't care if they served stateside or in a combat zone, Europe or Korea, or somewhere else. In the sky or at sea. War time or peace time.
None of that matters to me. Each and every one of us went where we were told, did what we were trained to do, and made the choice to die for our country if it came to that.
Brothers and Sisters. And I'm honored to be in their company.


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Re: Vietnam ? No, Vietnam Era [Re: Jim_Knight] #15983537 04/11/21
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Funny this got bumped. It's a small town here, I ended up in the barber shop last week getting a haircut about the same time as the guy in my post. It's a single chair shop and he got his haircut ahead of me. He laid his cap on the bench seat beside me. It was an Army hat with a Screaming Eagle pin on one side and a CIB pin on the other. There was talk in the shop of gun regulations coming down and our AR15 rifles being threatened by the democrats. The barber asked this guy if he had an M16 in Vietnam and this guy said yes and that they jammed a lot. Kinda hard to listen to without fronting the guy out. Even if I did question him I'm sure he would just like lie to get around it.


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