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Looks like a great load. I’d be worried about how they opened up on deer if I found the need to so use it.
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I think the TTSXs are pretty good for opening up down to around 2,000 fps or less. It's coming out of the barrel at 3,140 fps. I think it would do swell on deer. It can kill melons: https://i.imgur.com/xMUu4AG.mp4If it will blow up a melon, it will open up on a deer.
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Have both. Load the 7mm as a long range Deer rifle (168 ABLR M700) for which it really may be one of the best & the 300 Win as an old school all arounder with a 180gr Partition (1966 M700 accurized but looks original) After shooting lots of stuff they kill about the same but the optic & rifle setups favor each purpose. I kinda like having both and would have a hard time determining which is better.
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If I was hiking mountains for sheep, the last thing I would want to carry is the weight of a long action magnum rifle.
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The difference in weight can be made up with the stock. No biggie. Edk
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My 7mm RM weighs 7# with a 2.5-10x42 30mm Swarovski. I’d shot enough stuff with a .300 WM that I didn’t want to stand behind that rifle anymore. My elk got just as dead as the .300WM and .338WM elk on the meat pole and the deer didn’t run away either. As you get older, you will appreciate lighter recoil and less weight.
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I see it’s been stated elsewhere in this thread as to the effective use of SA 6.5mm, 7mm and 7.62mm. I for one subscribe as to not needing magnum cartridges for the game listed. If the SA is not your thing, and I know it sounds rather boring, but the 30-06 with today’s bullet technology will easily dispatch at very long range all critters big and small. 130, 150, 165, 180, 200, 212, and 220 grain bullets offer quite the selection for whatever your needs may be using the 30-06. Velocities will range between 3,350 fps down to 2,400 fps from those bullet weights. Hard to find that kind of versatility in a standard cartridge with 1-10 twist and its about 120 years old, so it’s well proven.
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The .264 Win. Mag. Westerner was invented to be the perfect flat trajectory all arounder for western game in 1958. And then, along came the 7mm Rem Mag in 1962 and blew the established western cartridge out of the market. That says a lot about competition of the flat shooting rounds.
The .300 has not yet blown the 7 mag out of the market, but scope evolution seems to have reduced the popularity of flat shooting trajectories.
I stilll like 7 mag because they are good in the wind and don't kick too much.
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We are shooting the 175g LRAB out of 26" 7 Mags with R#26 and 215's at 3050 fps. This is one heck of a good killing bullet!
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We are shooting the 175g LRAB out of 26" 7 Mags with R#26 and 215's at 3050 fps. This is one heck of a good killing bullet! That's a great combo, nothing much else to want for there!
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With today’s powders, bullets and even over the counter ammo you could easily use a 30-06 Springfield or 308 WCF on the game listed with a well placed shot.
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You must have tried them both..pick the one you like/shoot best. Both good choices, and you can find ammo for either most everywhere, normally.
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What would you chooses for elk, sheep, and moose? I'm leaning towards the .300 win mag but open to suggestions. Im looking at a winchester or weatherby vanguard meateater series. Any other rifles you would suggest? Rifles: i like your choices, I would look at Tikkas and Kimbers as well. First, I would get an '06 before any .30 magnum. Especially for the mix you list. Rather than stretching a .30 Magnum across deer, sheep, elk and moose I would get two rifles. Second,if I wanted a common .30 Magnum I would get a .300 Weatherby . I have one and a .308 Norma Mag and they are both much easier to load for than my friend's .300 Wins. I don't use either of those much. I much prefer my .338. I personally don't care for the .300 Win Mag. I don't like the short neck design, I find the recoil unnecessarily sharp and the rifles weigh more than I like for most of the deer and elk country I hunt, not to speak of sheep. Elk - I use .308 Win, .30-06 and .338 Win Mag, Sheep - I used an '06 with 180 gr NPT bullets. Moose - Never shot a moose. Oddly, I bought a .338 to do that but haven't made it there, the .338 seemed a better choice if I tripped over a bear too..
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What would you chooses for elk, sheep, and moose? I'm leaning towards the .300 win mag but open to suggestions. Im looking at a winchester or weatherby vanguard meateater series. Any other rifles you would suggest? Rifles: i like your choices, I would look at Tikkas and Kimbers as well. First, I would get an '06 before any .30 magnum. Especially for the mix you list. Rather than stretching a .30 Magnum across deer, sheep, elk and moose I would get two rifles. Second,if I wanted a common .30 Magnum I would get a .300 Weatherby . I have one and a .308 Norma Mag and they are both much easier to load for than my friend's .300 Wins. I don't use either of those much. I much prefer my .338. I personally don't care for the .300 Win Mag. I don't like the short neck design, I find the recoil unnecessarily sharp and the rifles weigh more than I like for most of the deer and elk country I hunt, not to speak of sheep. Elk - I use .308 Win, .30-06 and .338 Win Mag, Sheep - I used an '06 with 180 gr NPT bullets. Moose - Never shot a moose. Oddly, I bought a .338 to do that but haven't made it there, the .338 seemed a better choice if I tripped over a bear too.. Excellent post. I totally concur.
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I" personally don't care for the .300 Win Mag. I don't like the short neck design, I find the recoil unnecessarily sharp and the rifles weigh more than I like for most of the deer and elk country I hunt, not to speak of sheep."
Why does a 300 WM weigh more than a rifle in 300 Wby or 308. Norma? . I would think that they are nearly the same. I have been handloading for the 300WM for several decades and have not found it any harder to load for than a 300B or 7mm RM
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Not fond of either one. Make mine a Weatherby flavor in either caliber. BTDT
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If I go Weatherby it will be .340 wby
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Tikka 300 Win Mag and be done with it.
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What Stray Horse said.. I have a nice .340, but use it very little.. I would choose a .300 over it any time.. If I want more and .30 cal.. The .375 H & H is next...
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What would you chooses for elk, sheep, and moose? I'm leaning towards the .300 win mag but open to suggestions. Im looking at a winchester or weatherby vanguard meateater series. Any other rifles you would suggest? Rifles: i like your choices, I would look at Tikkas and Kimbers as well. First, I would get an '06 before any .30 magnum. Especially for the mix you list. Rather than stretching a .30 Magnum across deer, sheep, elk and moose I would get two rifles. Second,if I wanted a common .30 Magnum I would get a .300 Weatherby . I have one and a .308 Norma Mag and they are both much easier to load for than my friend's .300 Wins. I don't use either of those much. I much prefer my .338. I personally don't care for the .300 Win Mag. I don't like the short neck design, I find the recoil unnecessarily sharp and the rifles weigh more than I like for most of the deer and elk country I hunt, not to speak of sheep. Elk - I use .308 Win, .30-06 and .338 Win Mag, Sheep - I used an '06 with 180 gr NPT bullets. Moose - Never shot a moose. Oddly, I bought a .338 to do that but haven't made it there, the .338 seemed a better choice if I tripped over a bear too.. WOW find a lot to disagree with on this post.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!! First nothing wrong with a 30 Magnum........... Second in what you call a common 30 Magnum a 300 Weatherby and a 308 Norma Mag how are they easier to reload for than a 300WM ?????????? pretty much same O same O, unless you have a unicorn hypothesis you need to make us aware of ????????????? Short neck and unnecessary recoil ?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!..........are you kidding me, the weatherby has a several grain advantage in powder capacity AKA more recoil
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