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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4797993/

Oh darn, those pesky facts just won’t go away.

The above was from a study five years ago in 2015.

And what is different today pertaining to the spike protein that makes this design successful today?

Oh crap, they didn’t complete the trials did they?

Pesky facts. They always get in the way.

You are participating in a Phase 3 Human Clinical Trial, while you risk your lives, and are NOT even getting paid for it.

Your wives, and children, and grandchildren will hold their faces in the palms of their hands, in their laps, and cry and keep repeating the same word over and over, after you die or become seriously and permanently ill.

WHY? WHY? WHY?

WHY did they lie to us?

“15 days. We need to flatten the curve.”

15 days became 15 months became 15? years? centuries?

It failed five years ago, and it is a failure today, being there are no completed trials to prove the safety.

My protein design is on point.

Just the facts mam.

So this mouse-model study from May 2020 which says that some strains of corona virus had poor response to some monoclonal antibodies (others had robust neutralizing response in the study...), Somehow disproves ALL the positive research since then?

You have a definite pattern of finding old articles and proclaiming them to be something they're not. Do you actually read them?
Seriously, how do you find so much science to misinterpret? It must be a full time job!

I believe phase 3 is supposed to take 2+ years, so people that got the shot really are in phase 3 of study. Guinea pigs...

I can see blaming trump when the vaccine turns bad 5 yrs from now

I believe it was "15 days to slow the spread".


#COVID(19)84

You might want to understand the definition of a phase 3 Clinical Trial. You will then understand how stupid your argument is.

The chap you are interrogating may have in fact read them, but from what I have gleaned from his writings here today, does not appear to have read much of the contextual research, a common problem on social media these days. Hence his certitude, sense of unassailable righteousness and contempt for the thoughts of others.

Not really worth engaging, I’m afraid. But do so if you feel you must.

Cheers.

My thought exactly! Democommies are great at throwing schit over the fence.

Agreed.

Its rude to not speak English around English speakers...

Thanks Doc!

Five groups are currently working to produce a vaccine for Covid 19. Four types have been used in the past for various applications. The only one that is untested is the mRNA vaccine. *If* I choose to get a COVID vaccine sometime in the future, it will be of a type which has been used successfully on multiple occasions,..such as the live attenuated virus vaccine or the inactivated virus vaccine.

But the infection rates are dropping so fast at this point, that it seems quite possible that herd immunity will be reached before I need to get any vaccine.

I'm sorry, could you show me this positive research you speak of, where they have completed the legally required trial protocols to ensure safety, and prove a shot has successfully been invented for a virus in the Corona Virus family, without causing death from ADE. Or are you just another "mouth" in the medical field here to gaslight me with your lies and obfuscation, because I'm exposing the mass murder that has been happening by the whole industry?

Your failure to produce the above, which you can not, completely invalidates your position, and proves you're just a cyber stalker.


I just proved the article was correct, with my comment above, and torpedoed your gaslighting of me with your lies.

You have nothing, and you fail to produce any evidence whatsoever, which is standard typical debating tactics for commies.

You mean like understanding the Phase 3 trial description at this cancer.org link, which proves you are nothing but a cyber stalking liar?

Phase III clinical trials: Is it better than what’s already available?

Treatments that have been shown to work in phase II clinical trials must succeed in one more phase before they’re approved for general use. Phase III clinical trials compare the safety and effectiveness of the new treatment against the current standard treatment.

Because doctors do not yet know which treatment is better, study participants are often picked at random (called randomized) to get either the standard treatment or the new treatment. When possible, neither the doctor nor the patient knows which of the treatments the patient is getting. This type of study is called a double-blind study. Randomization and blinding are discussed in more detail later.

Key points of phase III clinical trials:

- Most phase III clinical trials include a large number of patients, at least several hundred.
- These studies are often done in many places across the country (or even around the world) at the same time.
- Phase III clinical trials are more likely to be offered in local community hospitals and doctor's offices.
- These studies tend to last longer than phase I and II studies.
- Placebos may be used in some phase III studies, but they’re never used alone if there’s a treatment available that works. Sometimes, a patient who is randomly assigned to the placebo for part of the study will at some point be offered the standard treatment as well.

As with other trials, patients in phase III clinical trials are watched closely for side effects, and treatment is stopped if they’re too hard to manage.

https://www.cancer.org/treatment/tr...d-to-know/phases-of-clinical-trials.html

We're not at Submision for FDA approval yet, being a phase 2 or 3 has to be successful for that to happen.

Maybe if I read it to you, you might understand. Phase 3 is an efficacy test.
"Treatments that have been shown to work in phase II clinical trials must succeed in one more phase before they’re approved for general use. Phase III clinical trials compare the safety and effectiveness of the new treatment against the current standard treatment."

Just watch the TV for 15 minutes. You will see and advertisement for a cancer immunization based on similar processes, different targets, different results. There are multiple vaccines FDA approved from similar development processes. The completed process is what allowed pharma to develop a custom vaccine so fast. This is not new to them.

I heard a radio news report saying they are looking for a few thousand pregnant women to test the Corona Virus 19 "vaccines" on. Sounds like a likely disaster in the making. If this whole vaccine experiment goes badly wrong will everyone involved in foisting this on the trusting (not me) public be exempt from liability?

Yet you neither can produce evidence to show any successful shot has been granted FDA approval for a virus in the Corona family of viruses, a common problem on social media these days, as doctors are being exposed for their refusal to treat with proven off-patent / low cost medications to save lives. Just like the drug cartel, they have to protect their money tree medical industry that is bankrupting Americans, and breaking numerous federal laws, under the Sherman Anti-trust Act.


Standard response when a person fails to quote a post and note the specific part that is incorrect.

Nice gaslighting, with your fancy adjectives sprinkled in.

Too bad your brain won’t allow you to prove me wrong with scientific proof.

Prove me wrong about ADE killing animals during past trials for a corona family virus shot. None has made it to human trials for a reason.

Prove me wrong about mRNA technology never having produced a successful FDA approved drug for a corona family virus.

Prove me wrong that VIROLOGISTS, Biologists w/ PhD’s, and Scientists are coming forward from around the world, and asking for a halt in the administering of these lethal shots because of the dangers they present to the world population. Come on doc, this one should be a slam dunk for you to prove me wrong. Why didn’t you quote where I stated it, and proved me wrong, being you have admitted to reading my posts. CRICKETS.

Prove to me you aren’t a mouthy doctor pizzed off for me exposing the Mass Murder of Americans you clown.

That article is from 2015. Just saying.