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Ok, you got a weird batch of old Varget. Don't discount it based on one experience. That would be like saying F-150's are junk because you got a lemon in 1999.
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Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay. Hheh hehh...he said "book velocity" !
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what all is it good for. I relaod for 308, 7mm-08, 30-06 and 280 Rem and 6.5 CM. i am guessing the short action stuff wil be fine with it anyone laod the 30-06 and 280 with it I am not looking for posts of other powders. i know there are other ones thatw ork better. VARGET is what I found and that is the laod data I am looking for
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what all is it good for. I relaod for 308, 7mm-08, 30-06 and 280 Rem and 6.5 CM. i am guessing the short action stuff wil be fine with it anyone laod the 30-06 and 280 with it I am not looking for posts of other powders. i know there are other ones thatw ork better. VARGET is what I found and that is the laod data I am looking for
I'm using it in my .35 Whelen with 225gn Accubond, 9.3x62 with 250gn Woodleigh, .303B with 174gn Hornady RN. Also good in .308, 8x57.
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Varget came out in 1995, apparently I bought enough to last more than 20 years. I ran out a few years ago and was very disappointed with the new lot of Varget.
1995 was pre "EXTREME" era, wonder if the additional coatings is what fouled things up
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I'm using it in my .35 Whelen with 225gn Accubond...
Ditto. Works very well, as does Re15.
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My 308’s have all liked Varget, including my current one, for 150 to 165 gr. Bullets. It’s my powder of choice shooting 120 gr BT’s out of the 6.5 Creedmoor. I prefer Big Game or RL15 in my 7mm-08’s, but Varget will work in a pinch. It also works in 223 if you shoot heavier bullets. In my opinion, a very useful powder.
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I am happy with Varget and 150 TSX bullets in 30'06. In fact it is a GREAT choice in 308 it is THE POWDWER for Palma with 155 bullets at 3000 fps, brass takes a beating but that is what the winners use ( about 3 grains over max) It was easily my best forheavy loads in 35Whelen.( top loads ten of them tested side by side with REloader 15 onlty one bullet powder (225 Sierra/ RE15) was superior. Four 416s have liked Varget best of all. OK in 6.5 CM with light bullets (for 130s my guns excel with 414) (140s really like Superformance.) Varget is my only powder in 30/40 Krag /150 grain bullets (Contenders in 14" and 22")
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Had an 8 pound jug of Vargay that sucked donkey balls. Took me 7-8 years to get rid of it. 5 different calibers and not 1 max load that would get within 200 FPS of book velocity. Couldn’t even get 3700 out of a 22.250 w/50 grain Sierras and 38 grains of powder and a mag primer. That stuff was pure junk. Lots of better powders out there than Vargay. Some of us chose accuracy over chasing max velocity. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Some of us chose accuracy over chasing max velocity.
Some of us want both. Why else handload? P
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Agree - Varget and AR-Comp with 155 palmas in 308
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Man, Varget in my .22-250's is big medicine.
I use 37.5 grs over a 50 gr VMAX and it shoots dime sized groups in not one, not two, but three of my rifles.
I'm chronographing them at an average of 3835 fps. And all 3 rifles shoot that load like gangbusters.
Verified by me, my chronograph, a stack of targets, and a couple of pickup loads of dead prairie dogs and coyotes.
I'm suspect that the only reason my fourth .22-250 doesn't shoot that load well is because I've not yet tried it in that particular rifle.
I must be living right. I've found the magic potion that shoots in 3 of my rifles. And it involves Varget powder.
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I inherited a .22-250 and a 219 D wasp......and 2 lbs of Varget.
Will try to work up a load for the .22-250.
The 219 has a load already with it.
Thanks for the heads up. I really like using a couple powders for multiple rigs.
4350 and varget should do all I need
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45.8 grains of Varget, Nosler 165-grain Partition, WW cases, CCI 200 primers does 2,700 fps on the nose in my 22" 308 and stays sub-MOA out to 300 yards. I haven't had a chance to try it farther.
If I could only have one powder for the 308, then it would definitely be Varget.
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