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No one has ever been able to explain to me why you "celebrate" the brutal killing of the man who was supposed to be your savior....
Some will bitch-whine that Jews murdered Jesus , then in the next post thank the Lord for sacrificing his son...that's the kind of stupid we find here. Someone had to do the will of their god but they can't come to terms with it and hold 2000 yr old primitive tribal resentment mindsets....same with Judas and Satan , who simply do the will of the God who appointed them .. all to Gods plan , but CF Christians don't seem content. Dude, if you're down with the Devil, that's up to you. I'm on God's team and Jesus died for me. You have no excuse not to accept His perfect sacrifice. You been toldt.
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It was God and Satan striking deals kind of like a symbiotic relationship. History is loaded with those claiming "God's team" and they did the most despicable and diabolical inhumane acts on a broad scale.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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It was God and Satan striking deals kind of like a symbiotic relationship. History is loaded with those claiming "God's team" and they did the most despicable and diabolical inhumane acts on a broad scale. You are a fool.
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.. What drives an atheist to preach and advertise to believers?
Do you realize there are many who are not athiest while not being Christian? Perhaps in your mind anyone who questions Christian claims is an atheist.. or perhaps just a pesky heretic who needs to be silenced. .., but why preach to folks who believe there is a supernatural creative force they define as God?
Firstly , why preach personal supernatural Christian beliefs to others? Since you believe in supernatural , Do you deem it possible pagan gods offer divine intervention on behalf of their true believers? Star: I pointedly asked you the other day, what do you believe created the universe and you avoided the question
You avoided answering questions I asked you previous to yours, then think you deserve Answers? That is not true. If you will go back to 3/28/21 And earlier you will see that I answered you about what and why I believe and admitted there is a lot I do not know. I don't think we "deserve" answers" but you joined the discussions and I asked you what do you believe. I don't mind telling you and others what I think the evidence shows and certainly don't mind telling you or anyone that I don't know something if I don't. So, are you atheist? Are you unsure if there is a supernatural force? Do you ever have a nagging feeling there may be some higher being(s) that we do not know? Your answer would be welcome and appreciated. If you wish to say it is a private matter, I understand.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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Earlier you will see that I answered you about what and why I believe and admitted there is a lot I do not know.. You also don't know if Jesus really resurrected but you still believe. So is it also possible pagan gods do intervene on behalf of true believers ? (even Without you knowing it) Can you think of any reason why such would not be possible ?? It's kinda funny how you believe things you don't know when it suits you...LoL. You already deemed me atheist Do you now doubt yourself? Perhaps you should forsake convenience and examine how you arrive at your beliefs to see if the method is robust and reliable.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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The god of the Bible is a harsh God. When Adam send God didn't just curse Adam and Eve he cursed the entire universe. Consider what he did at the time of Noah's flood when there were maybe as many as 25 billion people on the Earth. He saved 8. God made the rule that the wages of sin is death and no one's death is sufficient except his chosen one Jesus Christ of Nazareth. God gave the gift of his son and will be infinitely annoyed with those who reject his gift of his son. He will torture them for eternity.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
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God gave the gift of his son and will be infinitely annoyed with those who reject his gift of his son. He will torture them for eternity.
So you ignore scripture where the "penalty for sin is death "...and go for the 'keep them alive and torture them for eternity' ...
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Without the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, we're all doomed.
All those social justice types wanting fairness, they better be praying for Grace and Mercy. With fairness and justice, we're all doomed.
As to the sign of Jonah, three days in the belly of the fish. go study the Jubilee Passover. During that time, the 49th year of the Jubilee, it works out as written.
Although with the Jewish calendar and the speculated true date of His birth, it can get a bit complicated..
To me, if one believes the first sentance as stated, all is well. If not...
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Consider what he did at the time of Noah's flood when there were maybe as many as 25 billion people on the Earth.
You do arithmetic like Joe Biden.
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Earlier you will see that I answered you about what and why I believe and admitted there is a lot I do not know.. You also don't know if Jesus really resurrected but you still believe. So is it also possible pagan gods do intervene on behalf of true believers ? (even Without you knowing it) Can you think of any reason why such would not be possible ?? It's kinda funny how you believe things you don't know when it suites you...LoL. Its also kinda funny how people lay claim to "free speech" while totally ignoring the concept from which it came, along with Webster. Thinking THAT suits YOU....
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believed in him should not perish, but have everlasting life....
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Look i hate to wade into a “robust” conversation. But the easiest way i can describe that there is in-fact a creator is that nature works perfectly without mans intervention. Design.
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Any ideas why an intelligent design creator would put coconuts inconveniently high up out of reach and poison mushrooms at mans feet ..?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Any ideas why an intelligent design creator would put coconuts inconveniently high up out of reach and poison mushrooms at mans feet ..?
So that folks specifically like yourself could easily access them for ingestion.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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Any ideas why an intelligent design creator would put coconuts inconveniently high up out of reach and poison mushrooms at mans feet ..?
And lets not forget the ticking time bomb of the potentially fatal appendix. And where's the intellegent design in children with cancer?
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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Any ideas why an intelligent design creator would put coconuts inconveniently high up out of reach and poison mushrooms at mans feet ..?
So that folks specifically like yourself could easily access them for ingestion. I don't hate Jesus but we know your Jew forefathers did and you sound just as nasty.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Any ideas why an intelligent design creator would put coconuts inconveniently high up out of reach and poison mushrooms at mans feet ..?
And lets not forget the ticking time bomb of the potentially fatal appendix. And where's the intellegent design in children with cancer? Great point. You are also a fine example of evolution, as there certainly isn’t any indication of intelligent design as far as your concerned.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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B78_
Any ideas why an intelligent design creator would put coconuts inconveniently high up out of reach and poison mushrooms at mans feet ..?
And lets not forget the ticking time bomb of the potentially fatal appendix. And where's the intellegent design in children with cancer? Great point. You are also a fine example of evolution, as there certainly isn’t any indication of intelligent design as far as your concerned. So where's your indisputable hard evidence of intelligent design? Why does your intellegent god, who gave everyone the gift of life, then kill children and infants?
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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So where's your indisputable hard evidence of intelligent design? Why does your intellegent god, who gave everyone the gift of life, then kill children and infants? Man with his finite mind will NEVER fully understand an infinite God. Most humans do not really want that understanding anyways. It's easier to hate what they will not ( and cannot) understand to justify themselves.
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