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Yes, I`ve not had a problem killing deer with the "heavies". You are handloading, and with a bolt gun should be able to get close to 2750-2800fps with the Sierra 117`s. As with any cartridge/rifle, shot placement is key.

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Originally Posted by Elvis
The 100gn Hornady Interlock is my faviourite bullet in my Ruger Ultralight 20 inch barrel with 1:10 twist. As everyone knows that bullet is discontinued but i have 11 or 12 boxes that I squirreled away. The 100gn Ballistic Tip was too hard in my rifle as velocity at 2772 fps in the 20 inch barrel. The Hornady seems to drop pigs a lot quicker where they ran aways with the Nosler bullet. Bullets of 100gn are the only weight I have ever loaded in mine.


Good to know. I once had a 257 Roberts and the only bullet I loaded in it was the 115 grain NBT. I shot a medium sized doe with it and she ran like she wasn't hit and made it 250 yards across a field before she finally started to stumble. I was a bit underwhelmed with that sample of one.

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87 grain HotCor in a 1-14" ROT or 1-10" ROT - enough said for me.


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I suspect my 99 somehow got out of the factory with a slightly slower than 1/14 twist, only bullet it will group is the stubby little Sierra 90 grain HPBT.

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That does not surprise me that you found some accuracy with the Sierra 90 gr HPBT. If I have a 25 caliber showing accuracy issues, I load up the Sierras and if they don't group, then I look for problems with the rifle.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
If the 100 Partition shoots well (and it usually will even in a 1-14 twist barrel), it works great on game--even elk.

But my favorite deer bullet in the .250 is the 100-grain Hot-Cor. Generally shoots well in1-14 twist barrels, and kills very well. If it won't shoot, the 87 Hot-Cor will.



this is my experience also. But I'll add one more, that I like even better than the 100 gr. above for hunting in the bush for big northern deer at moderate ranges, say 200 yds and closer. The Hornady 117gr. RN. Loaded to 2700 fps or so in a strong bolt action it's been a completely reliable killer for me, from all angles. Accurate, expands well, penetrates like crazy.

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Originally Posted by erickg
I suspect my 99 somehow got out of the factory with a slightly slower than 1/14 twist, only bullet it will group is the stubby little Sierra 90 grain HPBT.


I once owned an older .250 99 that would NOT shoot any of the usual 100-grain bullets worth a hoot, even though I live at 4000 feet above sea level, including the 100-grain Hornady Interlock and Speer Hot-Cor.

Finally I measured the twist with a cleaning rod, and it turned out to be 1-15. This sort of variation wasn't all that unusual back when most rifle manufacturers used sine-bar cut-rifling machines, which were adjustable for twist. So I tried the 87-grain Hot-Cor, and all of a sudden the rifle shot 1" groups.


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I rebarrelled this Rem700 to 250 sav in Sept 2020 and shot a deer in Oct 2020 with 100 gr nos bal tip

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I rebarrelled this Sav 12 fvss to 250 sav in Sept 2017 and shot a group in Oct 2017 with 100 gr nos bal tip

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I rebarrelled this Sav 99 to 250 sav in 2019 and shot 115 gr Nos Bal tips and 100 gr nos bal tips


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I see a bit of a pattern there.

As I mentioned in my post above I found the 100gn Ballistic Tip quite hard in my .250. Velocity is 2772 fps (20 inch brl) and the bullets are from about 20 years ago. I bought a heap back then as they were very cheap and still have some left. My load is 39gn H4350 and that was the max charge but I see the data now lists 40.5gn H4350. Maybe a bit more velocity would help the 100gn Ballistic Tips to open up more? But the 100gn Hornadys shoot into an inch or less so no real need to go back to the Noslers. The 100gn Ball. Tips are good killers in the faster .257 Roberts with an extra 350 fps.

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The 250 Savage is also called the 250-3,000. It was purported to be the first commercial cartridge to break the 3,000 fps barrier. This was with 85gr bullets. I would think that the twist rate was selected to accommodate these bullets, so that would be the best place to start. If your gun also shoots the 100gr bullets well, that's icing on the cake.

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The OP clearly stated his rifle has a 10" twist which is not the original twist of 14" which went with the 87 grain bullets hitting 3000 fps.

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I get the 250 is a classic cartridge but obviously much has changed since it’s introduction. While 87-100 grain bullets have done a lot of work, I don’t get the resistance to using modern bullets, powder, and twist rates to get a bit more from it.

What a 115 or 130 grain bullet has to offer, it’s worth may be dependent on what the shooter is trying to achieve, it seems to me to have a place.

A light medium bore that can launch bullets from 75-130 grains at a decent clip with modest recoil and powder charges seems to offer a lot. Isn’t that why the Creedmoor became so popular?






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FYI - I signed up for product notifications from Midway USA for the Speer 87 grain Hot Core and they notified me today that it had been discontinued ☹

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I stocked up on the Barnes 80 Gr TTSX and love them in 250, 250AI, 257 Rbts. Also in the 25-204.

They shoot to same POI as the 75 VMAX in a 257 Rbts Montana.


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Originally Posted by barm
FYI - I signed up for product notifications from Midway USA for the Speer 87 grain Hot Core and they notified me today that it had been discontinued ☹


Discontinued by Speer as a product, or by Midway as a stocking item.

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Originally Posted by lotech
100 Sierra ProHunter and H4895. Very accurate, and excellent for whitetail deer.


I used 35 grains of H4895 pushing the Game King version on a number of pigs. Based on the results I'll have no problem popping deer with them.

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I called Speer and they said it was not been discontinued.

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Excellent, my rifle and I like that bullet.

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That's good news. We'll need to find a new outlet for it


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After reading this thread yesterday, I checked the Speer website. Like many other bullets, they are temporarily unavailable. I want some too!


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