Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 358 Winchester loads

Hello,

I have been following the other 358 thread, but some is for Whalen as well. I am looking for explicitly 358 Winchester loads. I currently have 200 and 250 grain bullets. Just acquired a 1977 Blr.

Thanks in advance

My BLR shoots the 200s (and Sierra 225) very well with IMR 4064. Ramshot's TAC and Xterminator have worked well for me too. I have some 250 Hornady RN's but haven't shot any of them yet.

Max load of 3031 and the 250 grain Speer spitzer.

Mind sharing your 4064 load with 200 grain bullets. I have some 200 Accubonds to load up soon.

40 grains of 4198 is a half minute load. Not sure of the COAL but the entire cannelure is out of the case with a Hornady 200 grain interlock.

48.5 grains which gave me around 2450-2500 fps. I've been working on some ABs in mine too but am still tweaking it, but I wasn't using 4064 with that one, I'll have to check my data.

Gunners 200 grains 10X load runs about 2600 in my brothers Ruger and my BLR. His will 200 ABs and mine with TTSXs.

Any issues with the Accubond workup. Nosler 9 didnt even have a 358 Winchester section this time and they make a perfect bullet for it.

No, Nosler doesn't include it because they state when the bullet is seated to SAAMI max OAL, the ogive is below the case mouth. In my BLR, I can seat it so it's not and I didn't have any problems. I should try some IMR 4064 since it's shot so well for me with other 200s. I pulled out my data and I've used Win 748, Viht 135, TAC and Xterminator. Win 748 only gave me about 2300 fps with 50 grains; Viht 135 2550 with 49.0 grains; TAC 2574 with 50 grains and Xterminator 2578 with 48.5 grains.

M1,

Which shot best for you? I have Tac and 748. And I’m shooting them in a Jes Rebore Savage. I can get near 2.800 or longer if I need to. And I only have one 358 so no issues with the ammo not working for another gun.

Thanks much good sir.

I use H 4895 with 180 Barnes TTSX in mine. Slaps pigs hard. Killed this weekend

I'll bet that big bullet does smack those piggies pretty hard.

Makes good pigs out of them...

DF

To me, 250's are best left for the Whelen and larger capacity cases. They're pretty slow in the smaller .358 round.

I've found that X-Term loads can get to full power without compression needed with TAC. I know JB's excellent .358 Win article used mainly TAC with magnum primers. I'm using mag primers with all my .358 loads. I have a lot of them, am running low on std LR primers, so using what I have. And ball powders, reportedly, do very well with mag primers.

I've also used RL-7 with lighter bullets. I've loaded the 150 gr. and 160 gr. CEB Raptors, have 178 gr. Hammers to try. Check those out on line. My gun likes the 170 Gold dot and 180 XTP revolver bullets, shooting both MOA or better. Nathan Forest in NZ says the 170 Gold Dot holds up great at .358 Win velocities, the180 XTP not so much. He says use those in reduced loads.

My .358 Win is a JES bored pre-64 M-70 Fwt. .243. It was a bit rough, fouled pretty bad initially until I shot it some, did the DBC treatment. It's settling in pretty well.

I have three different scopes set up for the different classes of loads. All are in Warne Horizontal rings that can be swapped back and forth without losing zero. That beats having to sight in for different loads.

DF


Edited to add link to my .358 M-70 Fwt priject. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/15226684/1

52 grs of TAC under the 200 gr TTSX.

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Ed,

Those links go to a generic Photobucket site, not individual photos.

Photbucket sucks....

DF

TAC did, both 49.0 and 49.5 shot well.

Hanco, that's on on my list to give a run, the 180 or 200 TTSX, nice rifle and results!




Dirtfarmer,

Agreed on the 250s. The reason I went with the Hornady RN is they open up easier than the SP at the lower velocities, IIRC JB mentioned this in his Handloader article. I'm hoping to get mid 2300's to 2400. My general feeling is the 225 is as heavy as I want, other than see how those RN's do.

I've also had great luck with Xterminator in it and my 356 Win...and without the compression you mentioned. I've kept my eye out for a M70 Featherweight for a rebore so good read on your experience.

I used H4895 and a couple of other powders, but H4895 was the best in the two 358's I've had. Then in September 2008 (or there-abouts), I believe, MD wrote an article on the 338 vs. the 358. In that article he wrote about using TAC - he got at least 100 fps higher than I had been getting with my loads.

BTW, I save my 250 grain bullets for my 350 RM's (Hornady SP and Nosler Partition). I mainly use 200 grain Hornady SP in my 358's. I use 200 grain RN in my 35 Remington's.

I shoot mostly cast bullets in my .358s from 150 to 255 grains. Powders range from 4895 to Unique and velocities from mid teens to a little over 2000 fps.
These 9 shots are with Lyman 358318 HP (255 grains) with IMR-4227:

I tried H4895 for the first time yesterday in my Ruger with the 200 Hornady. Sub MOA with 48 gr. I’ve used 4064, 4320 and Tac. Velocity is there with Tac but not the accuracy in my rifle.