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308 elk round #15958537 03/31/21
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Daughter inlaw drew a late season cow elk tag. We have figured out that she shoots my 308 the best. I have 150 grain Nosler Partitions and 150 grain Barnes TTSX. both shoot about the same. Shots will be no further than 250 yards. Any opinions as to what bullet to use. Thank you

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The 150 Partition will work just fine. The 165 Partition also, if you want.

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Of the 2 you mentioned, I'd go with the one most accurate in your rifle. Either will kill the elk without a problem.

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Originally Posted by hotsoup
Of the 2 you mentioned, I'd go with the one most accurate in your rifle. Either will kill the elk without a problem.


Best advice. I've had better luck with accurate loads using either a Barnes 168 TSX BT or 150 TTSX BT in a .308, but some rifles will shoot a Partition very well. I can't see any difference in performance between a Partition and a Barnes on elk.

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I shot cows with 100g partitions in a 243. I think you will be good to go with partitions or TTSX. Two year old dry cow is some of the best eating you can have!!!


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Either Partition - go with the one she has the most confidence in, put one in the pump room & enjoy some back straps.

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Both will get the job done. Use whatever shoots best and also consider what you have the most of on hand for her to practice with. Ammo is very hard to find right now, at least around here. Make sure you have enough for her to get plenty of trigger time behind whatever load you choose.

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It seems like the 30 cal 150 gr Partition is kind of the lost stepchild. Nobody ever talks much about it, but I bet it would kill about anything when started at 308 or 30-06 velocity. Anybody here use it on heavy game? I’d think it would out penetrate a lot of standard 180’s.

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I've shot a lot of elk with a 165 AB in a 30-06. The 308 is pretty close to that. An AB in either 165 or 150 will doom any elk.


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My Dad used 165gr Hornady InterLokts from his 308win for along time. Pretty comparable to the Partition I think. Until he retired and moved, I spent most opening mornings packing his elk out.

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I kill elk with 140 Partitions out of a 7mm-08, 150s out of a .308 is fine.



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Originally Posted by WMR
It seems like the 30 cal 150 gr Partition is kind of the lost stepchild. Nobody ever talks much about it, but I bet it would kill about anything when started at 308 or 30-06 velocity. Anybody here use it on heavy game? I’d think it would out penetrate a lot of standard 180’s.


Probably due to our BC focus these days, the 150’s don’t get the credit that they deserve but at 250 yds out of a .308 as the OP asks about, they are pretty much a match made in heaven.

With .30/150gr bullets starting a long time ago with Speer then Hornady and more recently into the Partition my experience started with Blacktails & hogs out in CA but then to several Mulies and only two Elk. With the realization that Speer 150’s hardly ever exited a hog (but killed them just fine) when shot close but the Hornadys almost always do so that’s what we used most and same with the Partition as the years went on. Shooting Elk, at least the two that I’ve taken with a 150gr (1 NP & 1 HIL) both have gone right down with no fuss. Granted both Elk shots and many hogs were with a 30-06 at slightly faster speeds than the 308 but not by much and I only had to take one shot at each animal except a hog or two. I can’t speak to shots over about 200 yards on anything with a 150gr because the shots presented at those times didn’t require it. Today I shoot other rifles more and I really don’t have much experience with TTSX in 30 caliber although I probably should.

Now if we were talking about Blacktail, Whitetail & Mulies specifically the 150gr Horns & PT are about as perfect killers as I’ve ever found given my much limited experience compared to others.

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Hornady 165 BTSP, working man's bullet.

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I killed a bit of game with the old 165 gr Speer Grand Slam with a .308 years ago. Most any top tier bullet in that weight will get it done. Elk haven’t gotten any harder to kill, just sometimes harder to find.
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Speaking of the 150 TTSX BT, I've already mentioned it works well in a .308 on elk, but I've found this to be a very accurate bullet also in a couple of pre-'64 .30-06s and a Remington 700 5R .300 Winchester Magnum. I didn't have to do much load development in any of the rifles; a very easy bullet to work with.

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In my sample size of 1, a 180 grain Partition out of a 308 does a great job. I probably didn't need that heavy of a bullet, but it is what shot best out of my rifle.

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In a 180 gr .308 load, I think bullet selection is of little consequence as most loads are barely breaking 2,550 fps MV if that. YMMV


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Truth of the matter is that it depends on where you place the bullet. At 250 yards if shooting for shoulder both Barnes and Nosler Partition will penetrate shoulder bones very well. The mono will probably go through both and possibly exit through a cow’s shoulders. The partition will go deep and fragment leaving the flat base in the other side. The fragmentation of the Partition will typically create a more devastating wound on internals. If shooting for lungs and only soft tissue is encountered, neither is the best choice as both will typically go through at both ends. They will work, but a more frangible bullet will work a lot better in the lungs giving you suitable penetration and the grenade effect by destroying many internal vitals such as the heart, liver, lungs, etc., one example of this would be the Hornady SST with a lung shot, it does create trauma quickly. The 165 grain SST is all I use these days on deer with the 308 Win, its super accurate and fast at around 2,800 fps. The bonded core types like Nosler Accubond and Swift Scirocco are somewhat of a happy medium between the two, plenty tough enough for a cow’s shoulder with enough expansion on lung shots to obtain decent results.

I have used 165 grain Partitions in 308 Win on bull elk with shots in the shoulder and inches lower behind the shoulder. Both Partition and A-Frames give you quite a bit of versatility on game, especially at 250 yards with 308 velocities. Both will expand and penetrate down to 1,600-1,800 fps. The 150 grain load should work fine even loaded slightly down if you wish. That bullet is designed to shed weight and drive the shank deep. It will give you the most versatility when looking at frontal, shoulder or lung shots in my opinion.

To me there really is no such thing as a bad bullet in modern design it’s really understanding the bullet construction, the game animal pursued and the shot placement you wish to utilize to take advantage of the bullet design.

Good luck out there.

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Originally Posted by hotsoup
Of the 2 you mentioned, I'd go with the one most accurate in your rifle. Either will kill the elk without a problem.


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Sticking to the two bullets you mentioned, I've used both and no question either will will work. I think if i were to do it again, i would choose the TTSX simply because of weight retention "insurance" and potentially an edge to penetration in a 150g hitting a big bone. If you were talking 165s then maybe the Partition...maybe?

Not long ago there was a thread about premium bullets; link attached. Worth reading parts of it as another source of opinions. I attached pictures of recovered bullets from elk.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...mium-bullets-needed-for-elk#Post15625911

Shot placement obviously matters but over the last 41 years of elk hunting, i have come to the conclusion that I really want a hole on both sides of the lungs. Elk can go a long way mortally wounded but rarely go far with collapsed lungs which is much easier to do with 2 holes.





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