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Originally Posted by FishinHank
I spooled those up with straight 20lb trilene big game for trolling. I can still cast them just fine. I caught my biggest king casting with an abu garcia 6500. That's the last reel I bought with a star drag. A lever drag is much more useful. I've watched people overspin their star drags and it freespools while a fish is running, backlash and it breaks off. You can make it impossible to do that with a lever drag.

The rods are actually cheap Okuma Classic Pro's. One of the best trolling rods I've found and they are really affordable. I wouldn't hesitate to throw one of these on a halibut rod though with some braid. They can handle it.

Again, this is my uninformed 2 cents.

What do I know....

I know we're talking about 2 totally different types of fishing. I don't like playing with my food or fish. High speed reels are great if your going to fight the fish and not pull on the fish. Some people are foolish enough to think you need to set the hook when a fish bites instead of just reeling.


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If you are trolling, the fish hook themselves usually. Its nice with those high speed reels to reel in the other lines and get to fighting the fish without anything in the way.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by FishinHank
I spooled those up with straight 20lb trilene big game for trolling. I can still cast them just fine. I caught my biggest king casting with an abu garcia 6500. That's the last reel I bought with a star drag. A lever drag is much more useful. I've watched people overspin their star drags and it freespools while a fish is running, backlash and it breaks off. You can make it impossible to do that with a lever drag.

The rods are actually cheap Okuma Classic Pro's. One of the best trolling rods I've found and they are really affordable. I wouldn't hesitate to throw one of these on a halibut rod though with some braid. They can handle it.

Again, this is my uninformed 2 cents.

What do I know....

I know we're talking about 2 totally different types of fishing. I don't like playing with my food or fish. High speed reels are great if your going to fight the fish and not pull on the fish. Some people are foolish enough to think you need to set the hook when a fish bites instead of just reeling.


I fish for food, I don't mess around either. Why do you think I am putting almost 900yds of 80lb on this one reel. I want some black cod.I have more. My LX has 65lb on it. I don't buy fishing gear for fun, its to catch fish. My LX is 6:1 and I yanked my biggest halibut ever up on it.

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Do I still "think" I know what I am talking about?

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Just cause you think you know what your talking about doesn't mean you actually do. It's easy to BS me because I don't know the first thing about catching halibut, cod or salmon.


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I'm gonna buy a Tiburon 4/0 and call it good.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Just cause you think you know what your talking about doesn't mean you actually do. It's easy to BS me because I don't know the first thing about catching halibut, cod or salmon.


You can think what you want. I am not a bullshitter. I just know what has worked for me. Take it or leave it. I know for a fact that the drag in an Avet is far superior to anything in a Senator. How do I know? I've seen senators lock up on big fish. The new ones might be different.....I don't know. Apparently stxhunter and MadMooner don't know anything either.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Just cause you think you know what your talking about doesn't mean you actually do. It's easy to BS me because I don't know the first thing about catching halibut, cod or salmon.


For what it’s worth....I’m from Texas...now AK for 15 years. Hank ain’t bullshitting you. He is spot on from what I’ve experienced.

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Originally Posted by AKduck
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Just cause you think you know what your talking about doesn't mean you actually do. It's easy to BS me because I don't know the first thing about catching halibut, cod or salmon.


For what it’s worth....I’m from Texas...now AK for 15 years. Hank ain’t bullshitting you. He is spot on from what I’ve experienced.

What the hell do I know....haha

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Originally Posted by AKduck
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Just cause you think you know what your talking about doesn't mean you actually do. It's easy to BS me because I don't know the first thing about catching halibut, cod or salmon.


For what it’s worth....I’m from Texas...now AK for 15 years. Hank ain’t bullshitting you. He is spot on from what I’ve experienced.


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Always wanted an old Penn 113HN Baja reel.


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Avet is a good reel, but when I was ready to move up to something better I went with a Seigler. All American made, lifetime warranty, veteran owned company out of Virginia Beach. A little more $$ but a great reel IMO.

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Avet is a good reel, but when I was ready to move up to something better I went with a Seigler. All American made, lifetime warranty, veteran owned company out of Virginia Beach. A little more $$ but a great reel IMO.

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I like that reel, handle is on the wrong side though

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I'm a lefty, so it is perrrrfect!

You can get it either way.

Also, nobody wants to borrow it either!

They offer both options in all their models.


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Penn Senators that were made in USA were tough long lasting reels. I have a Red 6/0 that I fished with in the Gulf for 20 years. Used 80# mono most of the time. Rinsed with fresh water after using and never did anything else. It is in my attic and still a good reel. I probably fished 100 days a year with it at work.

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Does anyone know any companies that make open face , or small baitcasters that are made in The United States. I'm tired of anything made in China these days. It will be used for fresh water and for walleyes and northerns.

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Originally Posted by ihookem
Does anyone know any companies that make open face , or small baitcasters that are made in The United States. I'm tired of anything made in China these days. It will be used for fresh water and for walleyes and northerns.


Stick with the "Made-in-Japan" reels for the best quality and value.


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Does anyone recomend an Amreican made open face reel, or at least one that is not made in China?


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Spinning reels?
Penn was still making a few reels domestically, last I saw. Usually their top tier stuff.

Might be worth a call.


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