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Ok. I am anxious to hear thoughts of those watching it.

My immediate thoughts are these.

Archival stuff is ok.

Of all the contemporary interviews I think so far Pat Hemingway has the most to offer. (Duh!).

But for most of the others, I see they have lined up the usual Marxist for comments. I cant stomach that Tobias Wolff dude. I realize it would be too much to ask to have an actual hunting and fishing writer comment on Green Hills Of Africa.

Still trying to figure out the John McCain angle??? Weird???

But I will finish the series.


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I've been watching it and enjoying it.

To be honest, I knew very little about Hemingway...so it's been educational.

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Ghost,

Like I said the archival narration I feel is pretty good.


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Have their round haunches gored."

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Ghost,

Like I said the archival narration I feel is pretty good.



With Burns, you're gonna get some leftism. I knew that going in.

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Me too!


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Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Novelist Ernest Hemingway on the Colt Woodsman:

The rifle and the pistol are still the equalizer when one man is more of a man than another, and if…he is really smart…he will get a permit to carry one and then drop around to Abercrombie and Fitch and buy himself a .22 caliber Colt automatic pistol,Woodsman model, with a five-inch barrel and a box of shells. I advise him to get lubricated hollow points to avoid jams and to ensure a nice expansion on the bullet. He might even get several boxes and practice a little…

Now standing in one corner of a boxing ring with a .22 caliber Colt automatic pistol, shooting a bullet weighing only 40 grains and with a striking energy of 51 foot pounds at 25 feet from the muzzle, I will guarantee to kill either [boxer] Gene [Tunney] or Joe Louis before they get to me from the opposite corner. This is the smallest caliber pistol cartridge made; but it is also one of the most accurate and easy to hit with, since the pistol has no recoil. I have killed many horses with it, cripples and bear baits, with a single shot, and what will kill a horse will kill a man. I have hit six dueling silhouettes in the head with it at regulation distance in five seconds. It was this type of pistol that Millen boys’ colleague, Abe Faber, did all his killings with. Yet this same pistol bullet fired at point blank range will not dent a grizzly’s skull, and to shoot a grizzly with a .22 caliber pistol would simply be one way of committing suicide.[1]


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I remember the first time I read "Indian Camp".


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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Me too!





I just got yet another demerit on the S&W forum for calling Ken Burns a commie. smile

I don't know how many more demerits I have before I get banned. Lol.


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Fuqk anything to do with Burns...Anti gun Ahole


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“Hemingway: High on the Wild” is an excellent book.

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When that Wolff prick made his comment on hunting I could just see him getting slapped up side his head with a copy of Green Hills.


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I knew what to expect since it was Burns and PBS. Interesting so far. Didn't understand why McCain was in it and it did irritate me enough I cursed.

Those things aside it is interesting. I like the photos of all those places and those times. I have read the Nick Adams stuff and probably like Big Two Hearted River as much as any story. Read a couple of his books and like his short sentences and the mental images. I will watch it tonight. It irritated me that they blocked out the N word in that one text photo. Hiding what was written is just stupid. He wrote that at a time when it was said a lot and by a lot of people.

I did go online and read a couple of his short stories after the program was over. Made me think about Cuba before Castro. Stumbled on some FBI letters at one site regarding Ernest and read them for a time. If nothing else this program will probably give me some things to read this year.

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I taped it last night. Looking forward to enjoying it.


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Has Burns led into his usual liberal whining racist BS?

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My god its so horrible. The takes on his life and lifestyle from that awfully horrid bunch of nit pickers they assembled are simply wretched. Ugh. I don't think I can finish it. The best writer of the 20th century and they can find so little good about him to say.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
Has Burns led into his usual liberal whining racist BS?


Well when they showed the work with all the blacked out N words it was immediately followed up with commentary by some black homogay writer of whom I was unfamiliar.


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Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
.. I see they have lined up the usual Marxist for comments. I cant stomach that Tobias Wolff dude. I realize it would be too much to ask to have an actual hunting and fishing writer comment on Green Hills Of Africa.
Hemingway was a Commie, so why not have Commies talking about him?

Hemmingway was a rat bastard for fighting for the Commies in the Spanish Civil War.


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Originally Posted by BKinSD
My god its so horrible. The takes on his life and lifestyle from that awfully horrid bunch of nit pickers they assembled are simply wretched. Ugh. I don't think I can finish it. The best writer of the 20th century and they can find so little good about him to say.


I was impressed that the one modern writers interviewed said he learned to wing shoot reading Hemingway! That floored me!!! Wow!


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"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
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Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."

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Last episode tonight. I'll watch it again, but it's more or less ruining my appreciation of the man. As an English major in college, my profs adored him, which ought to come as no surprise, and he did indeed change the way novels are written forever. I see EH through his books, and what I see is a master of language. Let that be.


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Apparently he was more effective with a shotgun.


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