Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
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Coyote_Hunter
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still not sure what this does that the 376 Steyr does not already do, except maybe have the Ruger name and endorsement. Most importantly to me, it will come in a Ruger package...
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No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
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08/03/06
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Teal
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That and I think that more than likely the others and ammo mfgs will support this a bit better than the steyr. I can not recall ever seeing steyr ammo on the shelf.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
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Coyote_Hunter
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I think it will beat out the RUM in sales, too. The RUM could not be chambered in rifles with a 3.4" magazine or .30-06 length action.
Coyote Hunter - NRA Patriot Life, NRA Whittington Center Life, GOA, DAD - and I VOTE!
No, I'm not a Ruger bigot - just an unabashed fan of their revolvers, M77's and #1's.
A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
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08/08/06
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Cariboujack
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I'm thinking M77 RS. I hope it has the old sights. Oh and Stainless.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
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08/14/06
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Carson
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This case should taper more than a standard magnum 2.5 or 2.6 inch case, since it starts at the diameter of a conventional case's belt, rather than the body. If the .375 H&H has its reliability in part from the taper of the case, this one should be reliable too. If there is any advantage to a beltless case, this case has this second virtue too. I like the .376 Steyr and the .416 Taylor. When is the .416 Ruger going to be introduced? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: JJHACK]
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03/25/21
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7point62mag
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Mark, I've gotta copy this and save it. We'll see if you still feel the same in a year or so! Look at the feed nightmare the shortmags have had! This to me to be a really big "short mag"
I am not understanding the attraction to a "lighter" rifle with the same power as the 375HH. One of the incredible benifits of the old 375HH is that it's the most powerful rifle cartridge you can shoot for your investment in felt recoil.
So we lose that feature, The wonderful long taperd feed and extract case design, ammo available nearly anyplace you would want a rifle like this, the sloppy to unrealistic CRF function of Ruger rifles.
If you're really serious about spending the money on a rifle cartridge that will likely save your life, who picks this one over the old faithfull 100% reliable and 100 years of proven performance Holland and Holland?
On another note I have serious doubts that it will shoot a 270 grain bullet at 2800fps or a 300 at 2600fps without pressure issues. How are you going to get more powder in a case with less capacity? I would suggest it will meet original 375HH factory spec, but not what can be realized with handloads in that 375HH.
Now the upside is that Ruger will make money on this. It keeps them in business and we need every American rifle maker pumping out guns to stay afloat. For that I hope it sells like crazy. I want it to be a success and see great use across the globe. I'm just not believing all the Hype surrounding it right now. I suppose there are already too many little guns flooding the market. Why not go for the bigger ones.
Ruger is certainly the leader in new releases today. From the little 17 caliber up to the 458 Lott and several unique big bore handguns. I give them credit for the effort! I absolutely had to bring this back to life. "Answer to a question no one is asking" hahaha now look at it. It's also funny that people thought it was a necked up .300WM lol
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: bearstalker]
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03/25/21
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I'd rather have the 375 H&H. As Brad already said, this cartridge is an answer to a question that was never asked. Exactly. I've maintained from day-one that the .375 Ruger is a solution in search of a problem.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
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03/26/21
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Don't agree... the .375 Ruger is an excellent cartridge of modern design principles. I have a Ruger M77 African rifle in .375 Ruger and a M77 Mark II Stainless rifle in .358/375 Ruger... I carry the latter a lot while guiding, loaded with 225 Accubond, it is a flat shooting, heavy hitter.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: brooksrange]
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04/03/21
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Both cartridges are great. Choose whichever is chambered in the rifle you want.
375 Ruger is readily available in South Africa.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: AB2506]
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04/04/21
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bobmn
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"375 Ruger is readily available in South Africa." AB please tell me specifically what retailers in South Africa carry Ruger 375 cartridges? I am asking in case my ammunition is waylaid travelling.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: brooksrange]
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colorado bob
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Ask your PH----he'll know.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: hoytcanon]
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I agree, that the 375 Ruger is an excellent cartridge. I also think the 416 Ruger is an excellent one. I have both, no regrets, and thoroughly enjoy using both. Don't agree... the .375 Ruger is an excellent cartridge of modern design principles. I have a Ruger M77 African rifle in .375 Ruger and a M77 Mark II Stainless rifle in .358/375 Ruger... I carry the latter a lot while guiding, loaded with 225 Accubond, it is a flat shooting, heavy hitter.
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Re: New Cartridge: .375 Ruger (375/.338 win.mag) Best Grizzly/African use?
[Re: Partagas]
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04/13/21
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I wish they would make a 284 based case only with the 30-06 length. You wouldn't have to change the bolt face on the many existing standard actions and probably get belted mag capacities, plus be beltless. ... I didn't mean 284 caliber, I meant 284 the Short action cartridge with the rebated rim. If that short action cartridge were extended out to standard action length w/ same shoulders etc then the capacity would be greater, (probably close to the same diff %wise between 7-08-284).
Then it would surpass the ai versions of standard rounds and be close to or surpassing the belted mag version. Not sure here just pulling a wild guess. Weatherby should pay some royalties for this conceptual work from 15 years ago 😉
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