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Everyone posting on this thread is "singing off the same song sheet."

I wonder if most of the 5,000,000 NRA members feel the same way or if they're just apathetic about this stuff.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Everyone posting on this thread is "singing off the same song sheet."

I wonder if most of the 5,000,000 NRA members feel the same way or if they're just apathetic about this stuff.
Most of them don't know.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
[quote=IndyCA35]Most of them don't know.

I'm betting most have at least an idea there's trouble in paradise. Most members are at least politically aware, if not active; and you can bet they're reading the news.

Now, do most have any idea that a con man WLP is? Unfortunatley, 99% have no idea.

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Originally Posted by Hastings
[quote=IndyCA35]Most of them don't know.

I'm betting most have at least an idea there's trouble in paradise. Most members are at least politically aware, if not active; and you can bet they're reading the news.

Now, do most have any idea that a con man WLP is? Unfortunatley, 99% have no idea.
I have friends that post pro NRA stuff featuring Wayne LaPierre on Fakebook. When I mention to them the justified controversy surrounding Wayne's misdoings they all say they had no idea.


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Originally Posted by Switch
Why in God's green earth don't the board of directors get rid of this clown? I quite a few years ago because of him, but rejoined because we need something to stand up to the anti's, but not sure it was the right thing to do. I had this POS pinned as a con man years ago when I saw him in Las Vegas kissing Harry Reid's ass at the opening of the shoot facility there. Why do we need him and his huge salary? Time to get rid of all the top brass at the NRA and start over with a few honest people. Tirm limits are needed in the NRA as well as Congress.



Many of the board members owe their seat to WLP because of his indirect control of the Nominations Committee. People nominated by petition rarely, if ever, get elected. If it goes to the 76th director position. he has his minions using NRA funds lobby for the preferred candidate. Even after it was exposed, they continued it. I saw it in person at the Annual Meeting this past October in Tucson.

The other reason many on the board support him is he throws perks their way. There was the aforementioned safari to Africa with his wife. It was on the NRA's sponsored Under Wild Skies with Tony Makris. Makris used to be best buds with Wayne and helped him save his job back in the 90s. Other board members are rewarded with the ability to be on the show and have their safari to Africa paid for with your money and my money.

I watched much of his testimony this morning in the bankruptcy hearing. It was painful. He would be asked a yes/no question and he'd start to ramble on. The attorney for NYAG and AckMac would then ask that it be struck for being "non-responsive" and the judge would sustain it. It got to the point where his own bankruptcy attorneys were telling him to just answer yes or no. The judge was a bit fed up and said, "I've asked you a dozen or more times to limit yourself to the question asked. Do you understand me?"

WLP did himself no favors in his testimony.

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What makes it your favorite?


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Top 50 non profit CEO salaries
https://www.causeiq.com/insights/highest-paid-nonprofit-ceos/

NRA did not make the list.


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Wayne a chunt for not stepping down, and the board is absolute chit for not forcing it.


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Originally Posted by OGB
Is this a surprise to anyone?

Lapierre is as dirty as any other politician and one of the reasons I don't waist money on the NRA.

This may get me booed by others on this forum but what has the NRA done for us?


One thing the NRA has done for us is shown that it took them approximately 150 years to figure out the state of NY was hostile to gun rights.

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Hopefully it doesn’t go to criminal charges .
Think about the far reaching consequences .
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He's part of the uniparty.

A scam man. Hope he goes behind bars.

GOA started getting my support several years ago. I left the NRA and won't go back.

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I just received my NRA renewal statement, it's on my desk right in front of me as I type this.

It's going in the wastebasket.

Is GOA the best alternative?

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Originally Posted by Hastings
I have friends that post pro NRA stuff featuring Wayne LaPierre on Fakebook. When I mention to them the justified controversy surrounding Wayne's misdoings they all say they had no idea.


That's been my experience as well, I believe most are ignorant of the situation as it is.


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Giving $100 to the NRA makes everyone feel like they’ve done their part, but we’re well past that.
Size, prime, charge, seat, repeat. No fat [bleep] in a $4,000 suit is going to fix the problems we’re facing.



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Originally Posted by Clarkm
Top 50 non profit CEO salaries
https://www.causeiq.com/insights/highest-paid-nonprofit-ceos/

NRA did not make the list.




You might do a little digging outside that particular list.
His compensation in 2018 would have nearly put him in the top 10.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/nra-paid-wayne-lapierre-2-2-million-in-2018-a-55-increase-11573854835


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I went to go see Ron Paul in 2008 with WLP as the opener guest speaker.

he was a no show. No great loss but I remember thinking that was a low rent move on his part.


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A travel consultant who testified in the National Rifle Association’s bankruptcy case said Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre instructed her to omit certain flight stops from invoices she sent to the gun-rights group for Mr. LaPierre’s private-jet travel, a disclosure NRA attorneys are challenging to keep out of the court record.

The travel consultant testified, in a videotape deposition played in bankruptcy court Thursday, that certain invoices she sent the NRA omitted stops in Nebraska and the Bahamas, at Mr. LaPierre’s request. Some of Mr. LaPierre’s relatives who were frequent travelers on NRA-paid private jets live in Nebraska.

The NRA chief previously testified he frequently traveled to the Bahamas to stay for free on a 108-foot yacht in the Bahamas with family members, provided by an NRA vendor, for security reasons.

The testimony that alleged Mr. LaPierre sought to hide certain private-jet stops from the NRA’s own accountants could be evidence he knew what he was doing was wrong and was deliberately concealing it, legal specialists said.

“If true, this seems like a clear documented instance of knowing misuse of NRA assets and concealing that abuse,” said Elizabeth Kingsley, a Washington nonprofit-law attorney.

The testimony came on the fourth day of high-stakes hearings in the NRA’s chapter 11 bankruptcy case in Dallas. The gun-rights group filed for bankruptcy protection in January, in part to counter fraud and expense-abuse allegations by New York General Letitia James, who is seeking to have the NRA dissolved.

Mr. LaPierre, in earlier testimony Thursday on his second day on the witness stand, was grilled by a lawyer for the New York attorney general on his management practices.

Mr. LaPierre admitted he didn’t know the group’s longtime chief financial officer was given a $360,000-per year consulting contract after he retired and didn’t know the NRA travel consultant for years had tacked an extra 10% fee onto millions of dollars in travel she arranged for the NRA. The consultant also was paid up to $26,000 a month, testimony showed.

The New York attorney general’s office has oversight for the NRA, which was founded in that state in 1871 and is officially domiciled there. New York officials have asked for the bankruptcy case to be dismissed or for the appointment of a trustee to oversee the NRA, citing allegations of dishonesty and gross mismanagement.



Mr. LaPierre said Thursday he repaid the NRA $300,000 after learning he received excess benefits in the form of certain travel expenses. Mr. LaPierre said he didn’t realize the air travel would be considered an excess benefit but when the problem was brought to his attention, he immediately sought to repay the NRA.

“I’ve self-corrected,” Mr. LaPierre said.

Lawyers for the NRA will have an opportunity later to question Mr. LaPierre.

The NRA and the New York attorney general’s office also battled in court Thursday over the admissibility of some of the travel agent’s testimony. Judge Harlin Hale, who is overseeing the chapter 11 case, for the moment didn’t admit into evidence the invoices the travel consultant testified about.

In addition, lawyers for the NRA said Thursday they had questions about the admissibility of a related document—a spreadsheet of hundreds of NRA-paid private-jet flights from 2015 to 2019—the New York attorney general’s office filed with the court but also hasn’t yet put into evidence.

The spreadsheet, which contains some duplicate entries, shows that NRA-chartered jets stopped dozens of times in Nebraska and the Bahamas, generally with Mr. LaPierre’s relatives listed on the manifest.

When the NRA’s travel consultant billed the NRA for those flights, almost all of the stops in the Bahamas and Nebraska were omitted from her invoices while other stops on the trips generally were included, the spreadsheet shows.

Mr. LaPierre said Thursday he supports a request, filed Wednesday, by the NRA to hire a chief restructuring officer to guide management through the chapter 11 case. The proposed restructuring officer, Louis Robichaux IV is a senior managing director at Ankura Consulting Group LLC.

Mr. Robichaux’s retention is meant to help assure NRA creditors and other third parties involved in the bankruptcy case that an independent fiduciary is overseeing the reorganization and the group’s financial operations, the NRA said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nra-ce...929414?mod=searchresults_pos2&page=1

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Originally Posted by Kenneth66
Hopefully it doesn’t go to criminal charges .
Think about the far reaching consequences .
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I disagree...Sometimes you have to burn the whole thing down. LaPierre has been there for decades, and he has seriously stacked the deck; the entire leadership is completely corrupt. Getting rid of him would be great for the NRA, but getting rid of the ENTIRE LOT will be more painful in the short term, but WAY more effective over the long term. Take the whole thing down, re-incorporate in Texas, hire some COMPETENT people, and get on with it.

Meanwhile, GOA, SAF, and CATO will have us covered while the NRA regroups.

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As corrupt as they come.

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