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“ I think a lot of the negative reaction to the shots is fear of being vaccinated. Jabbing a needle into your arm.”

You make a lot of bull spit assumptions.

Try twice weekly blood draws for a blood disorder - caused by the flu - which I faithfully get the shot every year. Plus I self-inject every 10 days.

I went fishing with my buddy today. We missed the entire spring season last year due to the first lockdown. Not happening again.

Besides, with 13’ float rods, we were twice the required social distance. And they’re letting gold courses stay open, so why not? Plus, neither of us live in the high-risk areas of Toronto, Peel and Hamilton.

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That is you. I am sorry to hear of your situation, but I still believe that a lot of it is being scared. Fear of needles. Fear about AZ, and whatever the anti-vaccers are worried about.

Since you wish to share your situation, I will share mine. I am an insulin dependent diabetic, and take 5 to 7 needles a day. And get all the requisite tests.

Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

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I'm not anti vaccine. My thoughts are it's not proven and has been too rushed. Again I will wait for my shot. I live on a farm and don't have much contact with people other than my family. I hated going to the city long before Covid. I don't know anyone who has had it. Thanks China. Thanks Dr. Tam.

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I hope people come to their senses and start taking the pandemic seriously. I don't want have to go through another year of this. I find it draining, fatiguing and generally demoralizing.

Do the right thing - Wear the damn mask, vaccinate and social distance - It's not a big ask.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
That is you. I am sorry to hear of your situation, but I still believe that a lot of it is being scared. Fear of needles. Fear about AZ, and whatever the anti-vaccers are worried about.

Since you wish to share your situation, I will share mine. I am an insulin dependent diabetic, and take 5 to 7 needles a day. And get all the requisite tests.

Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

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I find it interesting that anyone that raises questions or discuss IF current procedures are effective are automatically anti vaxxers.

I find nothing wrong with people asking questions and actually thinking for themselves.

Just because their opinions and conclusions may ( or may not) be different than yours they are anti vaxxers or conspiracy theorists.

Fear of needles? BS

Concern for the health of themselves and their families? Normal to me

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I have said this before, but it bears repeating: think what you want, but do not enter a conversation and expect everyone will agree with you. Like others, I am allowed my opinion.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
That is you. I am sorry to hear of your situation, but I still believe that a lot of it is being scared. Fear of needles. Fear about AZ, and whatever the anti-vaccers are worried about.

Since you wish to share your situation, I will share mine. I am an insulin dependent diabetic, and take 5 to 7 needles a day. And get all the requisite tests.

Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

Oh...


I think this is quite a bit of projection on your part. You want everyone else to Obey! due to your own fears. Instead of going to the range every day, why don’t you stay home, order your groceries delivered and let everyone else get on with their lives?

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I think you have problems. Is no one talking to you?

I suggest you stay home and hide in the basement instead of whining about your blood test.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I just read Doug Ford is shutting Ontario down.
So how does that work?


When you cross the border or boundaries, there is a big sign stating " CLOSED FOR BUSINESS UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, BY ORDER OF COMRADE fORD" post script ( Drug Trade Exception) eh?


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
That is you. I am sorry to hear of your situation, but I still believe that a lot of it is being scared. Fear of needles. Fear about AZ, and whatever the anti-vaccers are worried about.

Since you wish to share your situation, I will share mine. I am an insulin dependent diabetic, and take 5 to 7 needles a day. And get all the requisite tests.

Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do.

Oh...



I think this^ explains a lot. You are obviously among those at highest risk. Im not anti vaccine at all, I just dont trust this one yet. You can say whatever you want, but none of the covid vaccines went through the normal process and there is no way to know the long term effects. To the vast majority of us the risk of covid isnt any worse than the flu, so the risk/reward just isnt there. New studies in multiple countries are showing that up to 50% of the population has immunity to the covid virus. Even people who havent had it. Their immunity is coming from the common cold according to scientists.

On another note, if I were you, I would go to Paleomedicina website, and I would read everything they have on your condition. Lots of studies over the last decade. Some of it will take you to John Hopkins, and some of the work being done there, as well as many other institutions. The right diet can do wonders for people with your condition. Go into it with an open mind, and follow the science. Literally thousands of doctors all over the world are taking notice of what that clinic in Hungary has proven. Before you just dismiss it, ask yourself, what do you have to lose

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I think you have problems. Is no one talking to you?

I suggest you stay home and hide in the basement instead of whining about your blood test.


Per yesterday, when 13 people disagree with you, it's highly probable that you are the problem, not everybody else !

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Don't read into it, Yukon. My father was a pharmacist and I have faith in the medical community. My being diabetic has nothing to do with my belief in getting vaccinated and following protocols.

I will leave it to the infectious disease specialists to carry on their work.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Don't read into it, Yukon. My father was a pharmacist and I have faith in the medical community. My being diabetic has nothing to do with my belief in getting vaccinated and following protocols.

I will leave it to the infectious disease specialists to carry on their work.


Which infectious disease specialists ??

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I have said this before, but it bears repeating: think what you want, but do not enter a conversation and expect everyone will agree with you. Like others, I am allowed my opinion.

Steve,

I write this post in good faith. I do not think anyone here takes exception to you having an opinion that differs from their own. I think what people have a problem with is when somebody disagrees with you, you tend to start with ad hominem attacks and condescension, and that rubs people the wrong way. Statements like “sshhhh”, “you have a problem”, “go take your meds”, etc., are belittling insults that indicate that you may expect that everyone should agree with you, and when they don’t you get offended/passive aggressive.

You are allowed your opinion on any given topic, but so is everybody else and there is no need to belittle, condescend, insult, etc. There are several people in this thread that I’ve never seen have conflict with anyone on this site, except with you. The purpose of this post is not to insult or argue with you, but simply to point out a trend that others have mentioned, for your consideration. We’re all here for enjoyment, and would all do well (you, included) to take the libertarian approach described in your post quoted above.

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I only do that with people who feel that they must attack or insult from the get-go. I suggest that you read through this thread and you will see what I mean.


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I've had Canadians try to pick a "fight", with me, just because I'm an American when I've been in Canada.

I tell them two things. I did not drive 600 miles to get into a disagreement.

The US government does not ask me what it should do.


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Good morning to you Jordan,

Pure eloquence personified !

Hope you have a great weekend Mate.


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Thank you, Paul. I hope you have a great weekend, as well!

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
I have said this before, but it bears repeating: think what you want, but do not enter a conversation and expect everyone will agree with you. Like others, I am allowed my opinion.


Oh my God... talk about the quintessential "pot calling the kettle black!"

You honestly don't see it???

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Originally Posted by wabigoon
I've had Canadians try to pick a "fight", with me, just because I'm an American when I've been in Canada.

I tell them two things. I did not drive 600 miles to get into a disagreement.

The US government does not ask me what it should do.


Very true. You and I have discussed how some people carry on with others - especially in the top forum. laugh It happens across the board though. I put them on ignore.

Keep smiling!


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