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Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: M1Garand] #15985281 04/11/21
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Originally Posted by M1Garand
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Mind sharing your 4064 load with 200 grain bullets. I have some 200 Accubonds to load up soon.


48.5 grains which gave me around 2450-2500 fps. I've been working on some ABs in mine too but am still tweaking it, but I wasn't using 4064 with that one, I'll have to check my data.


Any issues with the Accubond workup. Nosler 9 didnt even have a 358 Winchester section this time and they make a perfect bullet for it.


No, Nosler doesn't include it because they state when the bullet is seated to SAAMI max OAL, the ogive is below the case mouth. In my BLR, I can seat it so it's not and I didn't have any problems. I should try some IMR 4064 since it's shot so well for me with other 200s. I pulled out my data and I've used Win 748, Viht 135, TAC and Xterminator. Win 748 only gave me about 2300 fps with 50 grains; Viht 135 2550 with 49.0 grains; TAC 2574 with 50 grains and Xterminator 2578 with 48.5 grains.



M1, Thanks for all the contributions to this thread, especially your findings with the 200 NAB, OAL-wise.
But the reference that Bluejay made in the quoted post above is to the Nosler Manual #9. I think you are talking about a statement they made in #8. They did not say anything about the .358 Win in #9 because they dropped that cartridge completely from the manual, despite making what may be the world's best bullet for this round, the 225 Partition.
In addition to this travesty, they also dropped the .284 Win and a few other great cartridges. They incorporated a few new ones (mostly Nosler proprietary rounds) but I don't get the requirement to drop other great rounds to bring in new ones. Hell, we are buying the manual for DATA! if it needs to be three inches thick to accommodate the data, so be it! We'll pay the price, if it's any good.
Not to derail the thread but I was real disappointed to see these omissions in the new Nosler manual. To get back to the main subject...
Last year I ran 51/TAC with the 200 TTSX, Fed 215, Win Brass, in my 22" M99, and this gave 2700+ FPS. Run the numbers on that and it is darn effective out to 400 yards. I killed my AZ elk with this load in 2020.

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Rex

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Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: TRexF16] #15986263 04/12/21
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Originally Posted by TRexF16

M1, Thanks for all the contributions to this thread, especially your findings with the 200 NAB, OAL-wise.
But the reference that Bluejay made in the quoted post above is to the Nosler Manual #9. I think you are talking about a statement they made in #8. They did not say anything about the .358 Win in #9 because they dropped that cartridge completely from the manual, despite making what may be the world's best bullet for this round, the 225 Partition.

Cheers,
Rex


Rex,
Yeah, I read that as the 200 AB wasn't in the 358 load data, I didn't realize they dropped it completely! I had emailed Nosler and one of their a customer service reps, Mike Seay, emailed me back stating this about the 200 AB. If I ever see the 225 Partition on SPS, It's on the list. I wish Hornady would make a 225 Interlock too.

Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: Seafire] #15987571 04/12/21
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Originally Posted by Seafire
Without reading the entire thread.... I got to shoot one, once....

it had been loaded with 200 gr bullet, loaded with RL 7...

The recoil felt like a 22.250 recoil.... a lot lighter than I expected... but it had no problem shooting flat enough to hit a rock I was using as a target at 200 yds..

never ever figured I needed one... I still don't need one, but if one came my way, I would certainly purchase it.

The one I shot was made on a 1909 Mauser action with a nice Fajen stock.

Right now, my fav three .358 Win powders are RL-7 for lighter bullets, X-Terminator and TAC for others. My gun is a 12 twist, but does seem to favor lighter bullets.

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Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: minnesota10] #16003470 04/17/21
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Anyone compare AA2015 to TAC w/different bullets? powdr

Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: minnesota10] #16003578 04/17/21
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After trying several bullet/powder combinations, I have finally settled on 48 gr. TAC under 225 gr. Sierra GK's for my Ruger M77 Hawkeye SS. Nosler Partitions would have been my first choice, but they didn't group as well as the SGK's.


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Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: minnesota10] #16005303 04/18/21
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My rifle is a Pre64 M70 FWT. 48 grains of H4895 and a 225 grain Sierra and 50 grains of H4895 and a 200 grain Remington (IIRC) PSP are very good choices for me. The 200 grain load will clover leaf three shots.

Re: 358 Winchester loads [Re: powdr] #16010142 04/19/21
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Originally Posted by powdr
Anyone compare AA2015 to TAC w/different bullets? powdr

I have both, haven’t compared them with different bullets.

2015 is closer on the burn rate chart to H-322 and Benchmark, about equal distance between RL-7 and RL-10.

TAC is slower, burn rate around H-335 and A-2495, the latter reportedly made for .308.

I haven’t gotten as good of groups with the slower powders. X-Term seems to be compromise with good results.

There are so many bullets and so many powders that work in the 358 Win that one just needs to see what his gun likes.

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