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Originally Posted by jwp475

An example of a case where the mistake of fact was not found to be an adequate defense can be found in Allen v. State, 290 Ga. 743, (2012). There the defendant believed that the victim was not in the trajectory of the bullet fired at a third party. The Court ruled that his belief did not constitute the type of mistake of fact that would serve as a defense to malice murder or other crimes."



Of course. It has to be relevant and exculpatory.

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Originally Posted by WYcoyote
The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding.
We knew this officer’s name almost right away, as every news media outlet in the country reported it. And she was charged within a day or so.
We still don’t know the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt. And nobody in the mainstream media is even asking, as they don’t care. And the power’s that be have already announced that that officer won’t be charged.


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Originally Posted by WYcoyote
The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding.
We knew this officer’s name almost right away, as every news media outlet in the country reported it. And she was charged within a day or so.
We still don’t know the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt. And nobody in the mainstream media is even asking, as they don’t care. And the power’s that be have already announced that that officer won’t be charged.


That Capitol shooter sure didn't mistake his weapon for a taser.

And nothing but crickets.

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The dead guy is criminal scum. Not convicted yet but probably was guilty.
But the female cop screwed up big time and she is guilty of a felony.
That is my opinion.

Meanwhile, she is now in a Living Hell. One week ago she was making $85 K a year as an officer. Probably looking forward to retirement in 3 years at full salary. Had a nice house there in Minnesota. She was all set up for a good life.
Today, the cops have had to put up New Jersey walls around her house, because the media released her name and address 2 days ago. Several police cars are stationed at her house. Nice of the media to release her name, when we still don't know the name of the Capitol shooter.

She is at an undisclosed location, probably with armed police bodyguards, because BLM types would surely kill her if they found out where she was. She is going to have to go into hiding, more or less go into a Witness Protection Service so she can hide out and not be killed. This is insane.

I think she will be found guilty and will serve jail time which, in my opinion, she deserves.

I don't know how these police pensions work but she might be deprived of her fat union police pension, "retiring" at 27 years service. The union will pay her massive legal fees, but she is still subject to massive civil suit, which she will certainly be served with, and will probably lose. Bye bye to that nice house, if BLM hasn't already burned it down.

This female officer is now in a Living Hell. She is a victim of an insane Liberal media plus her own mistake.

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I remember this same thing happened at a subway station (or maybe it was on a subway car). Not sure where. But the cops were making mass arrests, and had everybody on the ground. One of the suspects wasn't 100% cooperating, and the cop (a man this time) pulled his Glock and shot him square in the chest. He thought he was holding his Taser. I don't think that cop was even arrested. I could be wrong, but I remember no follow up report of him being arrested. The shooting was a viral video that we discussed here. Might have been ten years ago.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I remember this same thing happened at a subway station (or maybe it was on a subway car). Not sure where. But the cops were making mass arrests, and had everybody on the ground. One of the suspects wasn't 100% cooperating, and the cop (a man this time) pulled his Glock and shot him square in the chest. He thought he was holding his Taser. I don't think that cop was even arrested. I could be wrong, but I remember no follow up report of him being arrested. The shooting was a viral video that we discussed here. Might have been ten years ago.

New Years '09 if my memory serves. BART officer.

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Originally Posted by simonkenton7
The dead guy is criminal scum. Not convicted yet but probably was guilty.
But the female cop screwed up big time and she is guilty of a felony.
That is my opinion.

Meanwhile, she is now in a Living Hell. One week ago she was making $85 K a year as an officer. Probably looking forward to retirement in 3 years at full salary. Had a nice house there in Minnesota. She was all set up for a good life.
Today, the cops have had to put up New Jersey walls around her house, because the media released her name and address 2 days ago. Several police cars are stationed at her house. Nice of the media to release her name, when we still don't know the name of the Capitol shooter.

She is at an undisclosed location, probably with armed police bodyguards, because BLM types would surely kill her if they found out where she was. She is going to have to go into hiding, more or less go into a Witness Protection Service so she can hide out and not be killed. This is insane.

I think she will be found guilty and will serve jail time which, in my opinion, she deserves.

I don't know how these police pensions work but she might be deprived of her fat union police pension, "retiring" at 27 years service. The union will pay her massive legal fees, but she is still subject to massive civil suit, which she will certainly be served with, and will probably lose. Bye bye to that nice house, if BLM hasn't already burned it down.

This female officer is now in a Living Hell. She is a victim of an insane Liberal media plus her own mistake.


And society spirals down the toilet bowl..... swoosh
And they aren't smart enough to figure it out.....
White flight is happening on an historical scale...


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I generally like and support the police.... but they better figure out following the politicians whims will be a no win situation for them.


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Originally Posted by simonkenton7


This female officer is now in a Living Hell. She is a victim of an insane Liberal media plus her own mistake.

Absolutely no sympathy here. If one chooses to take the lives of other citizens into one's hands. One also accepts responsibility for care of those lives.

How about the babysitter who calls her boy friend over while she is on duty, and then the baby chokes to death on the bottle while babysitter is in the next room getting her jollies.

Same level of neglect.


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Originally Posted by NH K9
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I remember this same thing happened at a subway station (or maybe it was on a subway car). Not sure where. But the cops were making mass arrests, and had everybody on the ground. One of the suspects wasn't 100% cooperating, and the cop (a man this time) pulled his Glock and shot him square in the chest. He thought he was holding his Taser. I don't think that cop was even arrested. I could be wrong, but I remember no follow up report of him being arrested. The shooting was a viral video that we discussed here. Might have been ten years ago.

New Years '09 if my memory serves. BART officer.

Yes. That's it. Thanks. Did he serve time?

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This female officer is now in a Living Hell. She is a victim of an insane Liberal media plus her own mistake.

Absolutely no sympathy here. If one chooses to take the lives of other citizens into one's hands. One also accepts responsibility for care of those lives.

How about the babysitter who calls her boy friend over while she is on duty, and then the baby chokes to death on the bottle while babysitter is in the next room getting her jollies.

Same level of neglect.

Uh ... no.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by NH K9
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
I remember this same thing happened at a subway station (or maybe it was on a subway car). Not sure where. But the cops were making mass arrests, and had everybody on the ground. One of the suspects wasn't 100% cooperating, and the cop (a man this time) pulled his Glock and shot him square in the chest. He thought he was holding his Taser. I don't think that cop was even arrested. I could be wrong, but I remember no follow up report of him being arrested. The shooting was a viral video that we discussed here. Might have been ten years ago.

New Years '09 if my memory serves. BART officer.

Yes. That's it. Thanks. Did he serve time?

AGAin, I wouldn't swear to it, but I'm fairly certain he did a couple years after appeal.


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Originally Posted by NH K9

AGAin, I wouldn't swear to it, but I'm fairly certain he did a couple years after appeal.

Can you research into it?

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"On November 5, 2010, Mehserle was sentenced to two years with double credit for time already served (due to California jail/prison overcrowding, one day in custody counts as two for most inmates), reducing his term by 292 days for the 146 days he has already spent in jail.[123] The judge overturned the gun enhancement, which could have added an additional 3 to 10 years to the sentence.[124][125] He was released from prison at 12:01 a.m. on June 13, 2011"

my apologies, the appeal was actually post-release.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
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This female officer is now in a Living Hell. She is a victim of an insane Liberal media plus her own mistake.

Absolutely no sympathy here. If one chooses to take the lives of other citizens into one's hands. One also accepts responsibility for care of those lives.

How about the babysitter who calls her boy friend over while she is on duty, and then the baby chokes to death on the bottle while babysitter is in the next room getting her jollies.

Same level of neglect.

Uh ... no.

You would be talking out of the other side of your mouth, were it you lying in the street bleeding out when you got tazed, er mistakenly shot, for getting between the cops and one of your dogs.


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Idaho, the case you're comparing this to is one of making a choice to pursue pleasure at the expense of responsibility over an infant. This cop didn't make any such choice. She merely grabbed the wrong device during an exigent circumstance due to being flustered. A major screw up with a terrible outcome, for sure, but we don't measure degree of fault by the terribleness of outcomes under civilized law.

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No, what I am saying is the cop spent her time pursing her pleasures when she should have been learning to use the tools of her trade.

No thinking person could consider that grabbing a handgun from the wrong side of the body and holding it in the hand and aligning the sights while still thinking she was holding a TASER was the action of a rational twentyfive year veteran officer with a career involving the training of junior officers.

The officer was obviously NOT rational. She was obviously in full panic mode. After twenty five years on the force, she had the DUTY to recognize her lack of rationality and the duty to resign, or ask for desk duty. Instead, she spent her career hoping she never really had to face a dire threat instead of preparing herself to face it.

She placed the size of her paycheck as greater importance than the safety of the public she was sworn to defend. Just as the aforementioned babysitter placed her pleasures before the safety of her charges.

Yes, if I were on the jury, I would do everything in my power to convict her.

As I wrote before, had she made a conscious decision to shoot the perp in order to protect the public from the danger he would pose fleeing on the highway, I would fully support that choice.


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She was a FTO.

LOL

I believe her trainee was standing behind her.


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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding.
We knew this officer’s name almost right away, as every news media outlet in the country reported it. And she was charged within a day or so.
We still don’t know the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt. And nobody in the mainstream media is even asking, as they don’t care. And the power’s that be have already announced that that officer won’t be charged.


She was a white Trump supporter and her killer was black. Therefore the shooting was justified and the shooter will be protected at all costs...

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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding.
We knew this officer’s name almost right away, as every news media outlet in the country reported it. And she was charged within a day or so.
We still don’t know the name of the officer who killed Ashli Babbitt. And nobody in the mainstream media is even asking, as they don’t care. And the power’s that be have already announced that that officer won’t be charged.


She was a white Trump supporter and her killer was black. Therefore the shooting was justified and the shooter will be protected at all costs...


She was also a felonious burglar threatening the safety of elected federal officials. In all reality participating in insurrection and an attempted coup.
(burglary: the act of entering a premises with the intention of committing a crime.
the burglary is a felony, even if the qualifying crime is not)

Because we do not like the people elected to congress, does not give us a right to threaten their security. If one does, one better be prepared to pay the price as Ashlee Babbitt paid.

It was a good shoot.

Do not be surprised if every person who entered the Capitol Building gets charged with Felony Murder in relation to Ms Babbitt's death.

Remember, the price of liberty is the blood of PATRIOTS, as well as tyrants. And the standing government defines the crimes.


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